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If those old teams had to start from 0, nobody would cry about anything. Convince me otherwise.
Of course they are annoyed. It's the speed progress of certain teams. But they are forgetting the key, only a few teams are doing trading effectively!
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since I came here, not a single measure has been done to help new teams. Everything has been directed towards blocking fast progress.
BLAME the owner for not giving more money for trophies and competition victories rather than punishing a supposed free market. It's all so wrong. Why don't they pay more €€ for winning champions or ekstraklakasa??? Where is the common sense here
You want realism? Offer it.
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Of course they are annoyed. It's the speed progress of certain teams. But they are forgetting the key, only a few teams are doing trading effectively!
Edit:
since I came here, not a single measure has been done to help new teams. Everything has been directed towards blocking fast progress.
BLAME the owner for not giving more money for trophies and competition victories rather than punishing a supposed free market. It's all so wrong. Why don't they pay more €€ for winning champions or ekstraklakasa??? Where is the common sense here
You want realism? Offer it.
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Old anesthesized members can't seem to see the real situation.
Problem is that you don't see what's at the end of the road and we already know that. There's nothing interesting or good there, it will be a disappointment when you get there.
You're trying to get where we are. And we are bored, dissatisfied and unwilling to play anymore because the whole game is flawed - in big part because of the wild trading and how much more profitable it is than actually playing the game.
Problem is that you don't see what's at the end of the road and we already know that. There's nothing interesting or good there, it will be a disappointment when you get there.
You're trying to get where we are. And we are bored, dissatisfied and unwilling to play anymore because the whole game is flawed - in big part because of the wild trading and how much more profitable it is than actually playing the game.
It doesn't matter borkos. You precisely that have succeeded in trading multiple times..
The problem is not trading don't be blinded by that. The problem IS the game is not rewarding being competitive, among other things. BLAME Raul for that. And yes it's in capital letters.
Instead of easing things for new users they are just 1, dictating how to play and 2, making the ladder to climb higher for all new users!
I think making things easier for newcomers is MUCH more important than keeping old "anesthesized" users content. Don't you think? how much time do you think a new normal user will need to get to the top now!
Afterall, these old users will never leave. But I can leave this game. I'm not sure about you.
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The problem is not trading don't be blinded by that. The problem IS the game is not rewarding being competitive, among other things. BLAME Raul for that. And yes it's in capital letters.
Instead of easing things for new users they are just 1, dictating how to play and 2, making the ladder to climb higher for all new users!
I think making things easier for newcomers is MUCH more important than keeping old "anesthesized" users content. Don't you think? how much time do you think a new normal user will need to get to the top now!
Afterall, these old users will never leave. But I can leave this game. I'm not sure about you.
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You're talking only from your perspective. Most new users don't have time, knowledge or don't want to be massive traders. They want to play a football manager. Train. Play games. Improve stadium. Not trade all the time.
And yes, the problem is that the game is not rewarding being competitive, is not rewarding training as much, or is not rewarding/making possible investing and getting rewards from youth school.
That's why this new tax alone won't change anything, it's just the first, very small step.
And yes, the problem is that the game is not rewarding being competitive, is not rewarding training as much, or is not rewarding/making possible investing and getting rewards from youth school.
That's why this new tax alone won't change anything, it's just the first, very small step.
My perspective? You want to know my perspective?
I think that all your trading stories are bullshit.
There's few of us doing trading successfully, very few. And it's absolutely not our fault these inflated prices. Because we are in fact, forming more great players that end up in the market for the rest to buy.
Inflation came due to the low number of users + few decent youth players. Don't buy the lie of trading please... it's always offer-demand.
I always, since minute 1, advocated for changes that ease the journey of a newcomer to the top. They never come, the opposite. Understand some of us don't want to play here forever. Looks like they want you trapped.
As always, enlarging the gap between old and new teams.
I think that all your trading stories are bullshit.
There's few of us doing trading successfully, very few. And it's absolutely not our fault these inflated prices. Because we are in fact, forming more great players that end up in the market for the rest to buy.
Inflation came due to the low number of users + few decent youth players. Don't buy the lie of trading please... it's always offer-demand.
I always, since minute 1, advocated for changes that ease the journey of a newcomer to the top. They never come, the opposite. Understand some of us don't want to play here forever. Looks like they want you trapped.
As always, enlarging the gap between old and new teams.
They want to level everyone down there and will end the game!
2 simple ideas that would dominate the infraction:
Retirement of coaches, from 60 years old to 80 years old.
create Worldclass players in bot teams and launch them on the market, this way the money disappears in a team without users.
2 simple ideas that would dominate the infraction:
Retirement of coaches, from 60 years old to 80 years old.
create Worldclass players in bot teams and launch them on the market, this way the money disappears in a team without users.
I agree with that. and your second idea is so obvious, it really makes me question how owner/devs have not implemented it yet :(
The quickest and most clear change hasn't even been tried.
The quickest and most clear change hasn't even been tried.
Hi!!
This player was sacked, and has a Big future in Honduras u21!
Please release him or put pm TL!!
https://sokker.org/player/PID/39136316
This player was chosen to play a friendly Match next saturday.
This player was sacked, and has a Big future in Honduras u21!
Please release him or put pm TL!!
https://sokker.org/player/PID/39136316
This player was chosen to play a friendly Match next saturday.
Man... Value 43000 TL. i dont think hes a good player.
and he does not miss you :-)
greg is inactive in development for about 15 years if not more.
greg is inactive in development for about 15 years if not more.
My perspective? You want to know my perspective?
Not really, you have a perspective of mass trader, I'm not interested in that. I understand that you are angry that you will be now making less money because of new taxes, but mass trading of "meat" - that's not how the game should work. Mass trading ruined this game years ago.
It's a dying game, nobody wants to play it in this state, most people are inactive. And you say "yes, let's not change how it works, because it's good for me". Meh.
Because we are in fact, forming more great players that end up in the market for the rest to buy.
LOL "forming players"... keeping players for 4-6 weeks, making them pop in every position skill and then selling with a talent graph... and then selling same player for 4-10 times more than you bought last month
thank you very much for such generous service :))))
Not really, you have a perspective of mass trader, I'm not interested in that. I understand that you are angry that you will be now making less money because of new taxes, but mass trading of "meat" - that's not how the game should work. Mass trading ruined this game years ago.
It's a dying game, nobody wants to play it in this state, most people are inactive. And you say "yes, let's not change how it works, because it's good for me". Meh.
Because we are in fact, forming more great players that end up in the market for the rest to buy.
LOL "forming players"... keeping players for 4-6 weeks, making them pop in every position skill and then selling with a talent graph... and then selling same player for 4-10 times more than you bought last month
thank you very much for such generous service :))))
4-6 weeks, making them pop in every position skill
Damn you can pop all skills in 6 weeks? Whats the trick?
Jokes aside, all that you wrote is right.
There are special occasions, where the tax hurts normal players:
1. When a player is bought as a replacement for an injured player, just for a few weeks. He will be sold with high loss because of the tax.
2. When someone rotates old players (that are not on the training positions) each season because of old age and declining skills. In this case the 30 weeks tax rule is too much.
But that is small price to pay for discouraging traders, who are indeed killing the game.
I understand that this was a quick dev change, But what the devs should focus on is to get new users and make the game interesting for them.
Damn you can pop all skills in 6 weeks? Whats the trick?
Jokes aside, all that you wrote is right.
There are special occasions, where the tax hurts normal players:
1. When a player is bought as a replacement for an injured player, just for a few weeks. He will be sold with high loss because of the tax.
2. When someone rotates old players (that are not on the training positions) each season because of old age and declining skills. In this case the 30 weeks tax rule is too much.
But that is small price to pay for discouraging traders, who are indeed killing the game.
I understand that this was a quick dev change, But what the devs should focus on is to get new users and make the game interesting for them.
Actually, I am not doing what you are describing. You don't believe that I am forming players? I think I am delivering a nice amount of good strikers to the market. I discard what it's not good, like everyone else. My perspective is that I don't want to play as long as you and thus, want to progress faster in the same system that has been running for 20yrs
You are picturing this situation in a way it's not true.
You are making it sound like we have 100 traders in the game or more. And that is not the truth.
...and say what you like, but trading produces more great players.
It's good for me? Yes. Is it good for NEW users? YES. Curiously recent users are the ones annoyed the most with the changes? But it's ok, you don't mind about new teams. That's all the reasoning behind this, old teams don't care about newer teams and never did. They're just worried about the same 10 traders of always. Lol to that.
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You are picturing this situation in a way it's not true.
You are making it sound like we have 100 traders in the game or more. And that is not the truth.
...and say what you like, but trading produces more great players.
It's good for me? Yes. Is it good for NEW users? YES. Curiously recent users are the ones annoyed the most with the changes? But it's ok, you don't mind about new teams. That's all the reasoning behind this, old teams don't care about newer teams and never did. They're just worried about the same 10 traders of always. Lol to that.
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There are special occasions, where the tax hurts normal players:
the most important occasion for me is if a key player loses his form - and as long as form has such a huge impact on the game, and as long as managers have no reliable options to influence the form, this tax increase the bad feelings if a player has to be replaced due to his form.
so a reform of the players form gets even more urgent than it already was before.
the most important occasion for me is if a key player loses his form - and as long as form has such a huge impact on the game, and as long as managers have no reliable options to influence the form, this tax increase the bad feelings if a player has to be replaced due to his form.
so a reform of the players form gets even more urgent than it already was before.