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it is fair to pay for those kind of things.
You still can do manual scouting :P
You still can do manual scouting :P
and I made 2.75m euro clear profit last season [not counting transfers]. 2 seasons ago [2nd place] I made profit of 3.5m euro if I remember correctly.
You must calculate number of your fans and your opponents ranking (and probably fan base) in Poland league!
You know rest of the World, except 10-15 Nations have trash League ranking, bot leagues (all of bot teams mostly with 200-250 Supporters).
I agree YOU can make profit, but disagree all users Worldwide have same opportunities!
Already repeatedly wrote they should change number of fans in bot teams if this paragraph from rules is furthermore actual:
Irrespective of fan club size, for each match there are always additional casual spectators, depending on weather, the size of the fan club and moods among the members of the Supporters’ Club of the visitor team.
You must calculate number of your fans and your opponents ranking (and probably fan base) in Poland league!
You know rest of the World, except 10-15 Nations have trash League ranking, bot leagues (all of bot teams mostly with 200-250 Supporters).
I agree YOU can make profit, but disagree all users Worldwide have same opportunities!
Already repeatedly wrote they should change number of fans in bot teams if this paragraph from rules is furthermore actual:
Irrespective of fan club size, for each match there are always additional casual spectators, depending on weather, the size of the fan club and moods among the members of the Supporters’ Club of the visitor team.
I realise it works like that in weakest leagues with bots, it should be fixed indeed.
But comparing my situation to your country - it would be as easy to train and stay in Croatia highest league, that’s the benchmark competition, not your league.
But comparing my situation to your country - it would be as easy to train and stay in Croatia highest league, that’s the benchmark competition, not your league.
I'm talking about covering minimal weakly club needs.
Ofc, Poland ist like Premiership RL, but difference in team progression is not all the same.
I was comparing German 4th with Croatian 3rd, and even there Clubs in Germany 4th having better progression opportunity! And I'm talking from expirience playing Germany Regionalliga and 3rd league, and now Croatian 3rd league! Here is "quality" concentrated by 48 (1st, 2nd league)/70 active managers, and rest of clubs just relegating and promoting between 3rd and 2nd. First when my players be 22, and their 40, then I can expect not to compete against 15+ skills players, and fight for promotion. Only good thing is I sold most stadium places 2 times over season. :/ And that is questionable benefit too... ;)
Long time ago, Croatia had 4th league, but that is Sokker owners concern, not mine...
Ofc, Poland ist like Premiership RL, but difference in team progression is not all the same.
I was comparing German 4th with Croatian 3rd, and even there Clubs in Germany 4th having better progression opportunity! And I'm talking from expirience playing Germany Regionalliga and 3rd league, and now Croatian 3rd league! Here is "quality" concentrated by 48 (1st, 2nd league)/70 active managers, and rest of clubs just relegating and promoting between 3rd and 2nd. First when my players be 22, and their 40, then I can expect not to compete against 15+ skills players, and fight for promotion. Only good thing is I sold most stadium places 2 times over season. :/ And that is questionable benefit too... ;)
Long time ago, Croatia had 4th league, but that is Sokker owners concern, not mine...
Let me say once again, for the record.
Developers are thinking only about Poland and are unable to see further then fucking Ekstraklasa.
There are so many other markets which are dying because of stupid decisions which ruin this game.
The last one with sellers' percentages will ruin the market for older players as they will become worthless just like the goalkeepers.
And all of this is happening because of their lack of the vision and thinking through.
As we, the users, are concerned, some will adopt, more will quit and this game is going to die.
Who the hell is going to start a new team in 2024, wait for few days to get in and then there is nothing for him to do.
Today's games give you a lot to work for when you register and give you tasks and rewards etc as they want you to stay and spend your money.
Looks like they do it on purpose to bring the product to EoL.
Developers are thinking only about Poland and are unable to see further then fucking Ekstraklasa.
There are so many other markets which are dying because of stupid decisions which ruin this game.
The last one with sellers' percentages will ruin the market for older players as they will become worthless just like the goalkeepers.
And all of this is happening because of their lack of the vision and thinking through.
As we, the users, are concerned, some will adopt, more will quit and this game is going to die.
Who the hell is going to start a new team in 2024, wait for few days to get in and then there is nothing for him to do.
Today's games give you a lot to work for when you register and give you tasks and rewards etc as they want you to stay and spend your money.
Looks like they do it on purpose to bring the product to EoL.
If you remember, similar thing happened with training reform where they admitted they were testing only young players.
Same thing has happened with this introduction, lack of overall awareness and negligence of older players, again.
So, dear developers please rethink your doing and adjust the formula for age as you did with the training.
Thank you.
Same thing has happened with this introduction, lack of overall awareness and negligence of older players, again.
So, dear developers please rethink your doing and adjust the formula for age as you did with the training.
Thank you.
First time i post in this sokker international forum, I guess this is the right thread, cause big changes have come, big nonsense changes have come.
I played from 2005 to 2017, I left the game and I am playing again since 2022. I know this game, I like this game, and I have paid for years to play this game. So please, listen to users, communicate with users, explain your changes to the users , most of them pay for that.
I could say that recent changes related to taxes to players which are sold are the worst change I have seen in Sokker for years. These changes are going to kill the game.
These changes reward the immobility of the users in the game. If you are ACTIVE, you will be penalize. What kind of game try to make users NOT to generate activity?
I completely understand inflation problem, I completely agree daytrading should be penalized....but why this way?? If that is the problem, taxes should be for player under 24 years, taxes should be for the PROFIT from sale, not the SALE price.
If u want to retire money form the game, please put taxes over money in back account related to the team's value.....
Right now if i buy a DEF of 35 years, and i sell him 8 weeks later becase RANDOM form make this player useless, why should i be penalized with 24% taxes??????
Rigth now i have a MID of 23 years with low form because is RANDOM, not super high skills, i dont find similar players because there are no players in market. If i want to sell him anyway, why should i pay lot of taxes for this movement??
Right now I have an ATT of 37 years because he has low form because is RANDOM, he has been few weeks in my team. Why should i play 24% taxes for this movement?
I am an active user, and I am trying to improve my team. My intention is to have younger players, my intention is to improve my team's form. I am not a daytrader. Why these changes makes me NOT TO MOVE in the market?
Please, reconsider this changes, make users generate activity in the market, penalize those which make daytrading and just that.
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I played from 2005 to 2017, I left the game and I am playing again since 2022. I know this game, I like this game, and I have paid for years to play this game. So please, listen to users, communicate with users, explain your changes to the users , most of them pay for that.
I could say that recent changes related to taxes to players which are sold are the worst change I have seen in Sokker for years. These changes are going to kill the game.
These changes reward the immobility of the users in the game. If you are ACTIVE, you will be penalize. What kind of game try to make users NOT to generate activity?
I completely understand inflation problem, I completely agree daytrading should be penalized....but why this way?? If that is the problem, taxes should be for player under 24 years, taxes should be for the PROFIT from sale, not the SALE price.
If u want to retire money form the game, please put taxes over money in back account related to the team's value.....
Right now if i buy a DEF of 35 years, and i sell him 8 weeks later becase RANDOM form make this player useless, why should i be penalized with 24% taxes??????
Rigth now i have a MID of 23 years with low form because is RANDOM, not super high skills, i dont find similar players because there are no players in market. If i want to sell him anyway, why should i pay lot of taxes for this movement??
Right now I have an ATT of 37 years because he has low form because is RANDOM, he has been few weeks in my team. Why should i play 24% taxes for this movement?
I am an active user, and I am trying to improve my team. My intention is to have younger players, my intention is to improve my team's form. I am not a daytrader. Why these changes makes me NOT TO MOVE in the market?
Please, reconsider this changes, make users generate activity in the market, penalize those which make daytrading and just that.
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ASAP List
RULES Update! (But Admins and Linguists should know them first!)
TAX Calculator on Player Transfer List Script (Something like Mikoos adviced is probably doable!)
It would help users, not to check manually how many weeks/seasons is player already in team!
And like majti_orion already said, try to see bigger picture, make Sokker more understandable to all!
Try to make finances overview visible on pages and instructions how to start with budget, coaches and players salaries. Something like: "How NOT to get bankrupt in first few Sokker weeks, for dummies".
You probably don't know (minimum) 50% all new users are in fact old users, knowing how to balance and run club with short therm losses (something like mortgage)!
But this is very difficult and dangerous play, like now when some unexpected tax change occurs! And financial plan must be changed in short notice!
RULES Update! (But Admins and Linguists should know them first!)
TAX Calculator on Player Transfer List Script (Something like Mikoos adviced is probably doable!)
It would help users, not to check manually how many weeks/seasons is player already in team!
And like majti_orion already said, try to see bigger picture, make Sokker more understandable to all!
Try to make finances overview visible on pages and instructions how to start with budget, coaches and players salaries. Something like: "How NOT to get bankrupt in first few Sokker weeks, for dummies".
You probably don't know (minimum) 50% all new users are in fact old users, knowing how to balance and run club with short therm losses (something like mortgage)!
But this is very difficult and dangerous play, like now when some unexpected tax change occurs! And financial plan must be changed in short notice!
ASAP list should begin with:
Devs need to start reading our feedback and ofc to communicate with us.
Devs need to start reading our feedback and ofc to communicate with us.
If they update rules, would be a nice start too... we don't need to overdo it now! ;)
Please forget about updating rules, forget about taxes calculator.
Taxes changes should be removed or applied differently. Sokker needs users who generate activity, sokker needs players in market
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Taxes changes should be removed or applied differently. Sokker needs users who generate activity, sokker needs players in market
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LowPing → 2posto
ASAP list should begin with:
Devs need to start reading our feedback and ofc to communicate with us
This is so sad but ...
ASAP list should begin with:
Devs need to start reading our feedback and ofc to communicate with us
This is so sad but ...
majti_orion do borkos007
Let me say once again, for the record.
Developers are thinking only about Poland and are unable to see further then fucking Ekstraklasa.
Yes, you said the same thing after previous unliked changes, claiming that these are changes are made "for Ekstraklasa users" which was bullshit and then you apologised when I explained to you that it's bullshit...
majti_orion do borkos007
Then I was wrong and I am truly sorry.
So, we are all doomed..
So again... just like previous time... these are not changes "made for Ekstraklasa"
Ekstraklasa is the most demanding league in the whole game, where you have to have most money, spend most money and where you actually lose most money...
There are MANY teams that play for over 80... exactly SIX teams playing for AVERAGE mark over 80 in current season
How do you think, how much they have to spend to have a red card/injury substitute and who will lose most on this tax?
Honestly, how on earth did you come to this bullshit conclusion that this tax was "made for Ekstraklasa"? Top teams in Poland are getting fucked with every change they make
Let me say once again, for the record.
Developers are thinking only about Poland and are unable to see further then fucking Ekstraklasa.
Yes, you said the same thing after previous unliked changes, claiming that these are changes are made "for Ekstraklasa users" which was bullshit and then you apologised when I explained to you that it's bullshit...
majti_orion do borkos007
Then I was wrong and I am truly sorry.
So, we are all doomed..
So again... just like previous time... these are not changes "made for Ekstraklasa"
Ekstraklasa is the most demanding league in the whole game, where you have to have most money, spend most money and where you actually lose most money...
There are MANY teams that play for over 80... exactly SIX teams playing for AVERAGE mark over 80 in current season
How do you think, how much they have to spend to have a red card/injury substitute and who will lose most on this tax?
Honestly, how on earth did you come to this bullshit conclusion that this tax was "made for Ekstraklasa"? Top teams in Poland are getting fucked with every change they make
Sk mail bombardment to the owner of this dying game.
That would be a good first step :)
That would be a good first step :)
Those teams have enough money to replace an injuried player :P.
What about the rest of the world, which obviously you don't care at all?
I played this game since 2007 then I retired in 2012-13 and ccame back in 2020. The only good changes devs made were the new training system and the league improve from 8 to 12 teams. All the rest of the changes have impacted negatively to the users and users have shown their discontent.
Unfortunately, devs also don't care about it. They barely read forums and dgaf about any feedback we can give.
What about the rest of the world, which obviously you don't care at all?
I played this game since 2007 then I retired in 2012-13 and ccame back in 2020. The only good changes devs made were the new training system and the league improve from 8 to 12 teams. All the rest of the changes have impacted negatively to the users and users have shown their discontent.
Unfortunately, devs also don't care about it. They barely read forums and dgaf about any feedback we can give.