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I see that you are talking about our league :))
Don't understand everything with google translate, but I can see the point
Croatian league is weaker than polish and it is big difference, but still this game was mistake from other manager, cause he said on forum that he forget to put first squad and he play with one from cup game....normally he make 67-68 and fight for position 4-8
But in last 10 seasons there was at least 5,6 teams with top marks (Nikkon, Nogalo, Balthier, Praxitebel, Jazo, razor....) and it is not easy beat that teams every single season, cause they are here for 3,4 seasons and than new rival come
I would like to have league with all 8 teams 70+, not only 3 like we have in last few seasons and it would be so intresting for me if greg could put me in some polish division (3 or 4 would be fine for me to for start) just to see if I can win it in few seasons time
Don't understand everything with google translate, but I can see the point
Croatian league is weaker than polish and it is big difference, but still this game was mistake from other manager, cause he said on forum that he forget to put first squad and he play with one from cup game....normally he make 67-68 and fight for position 4-8
But in last 10 seasons there was at least 5,6 teams with top marks (Nikkon, Nogalo, Balthier, Praxitebel, Jazo, razor....) and it is not easy beat that teams every single season, cause they are here for 3,4 seasons and than new rival come
I would like to have league with all 8 teams 70+, not only 3 like we have in last few seasons and it would be so intresting for me if greg could put me in some polish division (3 or 4 would be fine for me to for start) just to see if I can win it in few seasons time
Yup, Poland is more demanding...
74.7 in 3rd league
73.5 in 3rd league
72.6 in 4th league
71.5 in 4th league
Of course you have a great team and you did very well in CC, nobody denies that :)
We just wrote with dzidzia that you have a bit easier way to stay at top level with your team and to compete in CC - you easily win the league so you're in CC every season + sometimes you can use some reserves in the league to rest your players for CC :).
74.7 in 3rd league
73.5 in 3rd league
72.6 in 4th league
71.5 in 4th league
Of course you have a great team and you did very well in CC, nobody denies that :)
We just wrote with dzidzia that you have a bit easier way to stay at top level with your team and to compete in CC - you easily win the league so you're in CC every season + sometimes you can use some reserves in the league to rest your players for CC :).
you have a bit easier way to stay at top level with your team and to compete in CC
It is little bit easier, cause I can drop my average age to 27-28 every season, still have 75+ team and have great chance to compete in CC
- you easily win the league so you're in CC every season + sometimes you can use some reserves in the league to rest your players for CC :).
some season I can easily win league, but in lot of cases it is not so easy as it looks, for example last season there was my team of 75, two teams of 73 and other teams were 66-70, so for me it is so easy to be in top 3, but to be number 1 every season is still hard and against teams with 68 mark it is almost impossible to rest players for CC (I think I never rest someone for CC in my league)....if I loose points against weaker teams I need to beat both 73 teams to win title, which is not so easy season after season
It is little bit easier, cause I can drop my average age to 27-28 every season, still have 75+ team and have great chance to compete in CC
- you easily win the league so you're in CC every season + sometimes you can use some reserves in the league to rest your players for CC :).
some season I can easily win league, but in lot of cases it is not so easy as it looks, for example last season there was my team of 75, two teams of 73 and other teams were 66-70, so for me it is so easy to be in top 3, but to be number 1 every season is still hard and against teams with 68 mark it is almost impossible to rest players for CC (I think I never rest someone for CC in my league)....if I loose points against weaker teams I need to beat both 73 teams to win title, which is not so easy season after season
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the league in Poland is much more difficult.
you need TOP players to win it. It's just so strong that you can win it with 28+ aged players. And as they loose speed after 28 you need to train it. In 2 seasons you end up with old players aged 30 and worth half the amount of $sk.
So as they get older and loose there value eventually you sell them to buy younger players. But the youngsters are too week for the 1 division. That's why most of the managers milk as much as they can from there team until it gets too old and then drop down to lover divisions to regenerate.
Most of the former champions are now in lower leagues 3+. Where they ern money to get back to the I division. Then after few seasons they will fall down again and the cycle repeats.
you need TOP players to win it. It's just so strong that you can win it with 28+ aged players. And as they loose speed after 28 you need to train it. In 2 seasons you end up with old players aged 30 and worth half the amount of $sk.
So as they get older and loose there value eventually you sell them to buy younger players. But the youngsters are too week for the 1 division. That's why most of the managers milk as much as they can from there team until it gets too old and then drop down to lover divisions to regenerate.
Most of the former champions are now in lower leagues 3+. Where they ern money to get back to the I division. Then after few seasons they will fall down again and the cycle repeats.
Nigdy nie pomyślałbym że zrozumiem cię lepiej w języku angielskim aniżeli w naszym ojczystym :d (no offens)
jak pisze po angielsku to sie staram
jak pisze po polsku to mam to w pupie
no offens taken
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moze ujmé to bardziej rozlegle dla odmiany
To ze ktos z chorwacji pofatygowal sie przetlumaczyc tresc dotyczácá sokkera z polskiego forum i odpowiedziec na niá po angielsku. Dal mi tym samym wyrazny sygnal ze to bedzie konstruktywna konwersacja na temat tej gry (albo przynajmniej ma zadatki na takowá).
Niestety jak ktos pisze po polsku na forum sokka to sprowadza sie to obrazania, spamowania badz innej dziecinady (co niestety udziela sie i tobie). I dlamnei kompletnie nie warto na takowe cos jakkolwiek odpisywac. Wiéc jezeli juz to robie (sam sie zastanawiam dlaczego) to ma to forme báka na jaká adresat w moim mniemaniu sobie zasluzyl.
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jak pisze po polsku to mam to w pupie
no offens taken
edytka:
moze ujmé to bardziej rozlegle dla odmiany
To ze ktos z chorwacji pofatygowal sie przetlumaczyc tresc dotyczácá sokkera z polskiego forum i odpowiedziec na niá po angielsku. Dal mi tym samym wyrazny sygnal ze to bedzie konstruktywna konwersacja na temat tej gry (albo przynajmniej ma zadatki na takowá).
Niestety jak ktos pisze po polsku na forum sokka to sprowadza sie to obrazania, spamowania badz innej dziecinady (co niestety udziela sie i tobie). I dlamnei kompletnie nie warto na takowe cos jakkolwiek odpisywac. Wiéc jezeli juz to robie (sam sie zastanawiam dlaczego) to ma to forme báka na jaká adresat w moim mniemaniu sobie zasluzyl.
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Niestety jak ktos pisze po polsku na forum sokka to sprowadza sie to obrazania, spamowania badz innej dziecinady (co niestety udziela sie i tobie
Ha,ha,ha piszesz chyba właśnie o sobie, kojarzysz swoją ostatnią akcję na jednej z federek. Wypisz,wymaluj: obrażanie, spamowanie i dziecinada
Ha,ha,ha piszesz chyba właśnie o sobie, kojarzysz swoją ostatnią akcję na jednej z federek. Wypisz,wymaluj: obrażanie, spamowanie i dziecinada
the league in Poland is much more difficult.
big true :)
you need TOP players to win it. It's just so strong that you can win it with 28+ aged players. And as they loose speed after 28 you need to train it. In 2 seasons you end up with old players aged 30 and worth half the amount of $sk.
to win your first division you need older players, but with good managment you can maintain average mark of 75-78 for lot of seasons and have average age of 29 whole the time (I made it, so it is possible)....and of course 10 seasons ago 70+ was like 75+ today....with this squad sometimes you would fight for staying in league and sometimes you would fight for winning the league
So as they get older and loose there value eventually you sell them to buy younger players. But the youngsters are too week for the 1 division. That's why most of the managers milk as much as they can from there team until it gets too old and then drop down to lover divisions to regenerate.
Most of the former champions are now in lower leagues 3+. Where they ern money to get back to the I division. Then after few seasons they will fall down again and the cycle repeats.
My goal was always to stay in top for lot of seasons and not only to shine for few seasons, so in Croatia it is possible and it is possible to have team to contender for CC win almost every season.....as I said I would like to try do the same in polish division, cause it would be much harder, almost impossible, but I would try it :)
I played with polish champion or cup winner 4 times and have 3 win and one big loose....I played 10 times CC and 5 times was in 1/2 final and polish teams made it 7/18 times (in 11 edition it was possible to have 22 teams and few times you have double champion, so maybe it is form 17 maybe from 19)....so I have good team for last 10 seasons which can fight against best polish teams and I would really like to play your division for some time to see what would happened
big true :)
you need TOP players to win it. It's just so strong that you can win it with 28+ aged players. And as they loose speed after 28 you need to train it. In 2 seasons you end up with old players aged 30 and worth half the amount of $sk.
to win your first division you need older players, but with good managment you can maintain average mark of 75-78 for lot of seasons and have average age of 29 whole the time (I made it, so it is possible)....and of course 10 seasons ago 70+ was like 75+ today....with this squad sometimes you would fight for staying in league and sometimes you would fight for winning the league
So as they get older and loose there value eventually you sell them to buy younger players. But the youngsters are too week for the 1 division. That's why most of the managers milk as much as they can from there team until it gets too old and then drop down to lover divisions to regenerate.
Most of the former champions are now in lower leagues 3+. Where they ern money to get back to the I division. Then after few seasons they will fall down again and the cycle repeats.
My goal was always to stay in top for lot of seasons and not only to shine for few seasons, so in Croatia it is possible and it is possible to have team to contender for CC win almost every season.....as I said I would like to try do the same in polish division, cause it would be much harder, almost impossible, but I would try it :)
I played with polish champion or cup winner 4 times and have 3 win and one big loose....I played 10 times CC and 5 times was in 1/2 final and polish teams made it 7/18 times (in 11 edition it was possible to have 22 teams and few times you have double champion, so maybe it is form 17 maybe from 19)....so I have good team for last 10 seasons which can fight against best polish teams and I would really like to play your division for some time to see what would happened
Your win lose ratio with polish teams is impressive.
Most of us thinks that polish tactical knowledge is better as the league is stronger. You change that way of thinking ;]
to win your first division you need older players, but with good management you can maintain average mark of 75-78 for lot of seasons and have average age of 29 whole the time
Sure thing. But it's easier in Croatia to do it as you can lower the power of your team a bit and still win the division. In Poland it's most likely a risky situation. A lot of times you'll end up playing in the play-offs for the second league.
http://online.sokker.org/comment/matchID/22235419
and as you can see in a recent play off game (above) a second league team played for 81,5% and knocked down a 74% team. The only champion ever that didn't go lower then second league.
so after making your team younger and taking it down to 75% it's a lottery for a polish player. will i stay or will i go now
But I agree it is possible. But i think it would require a lot of DT and i mean ALOT of it to win the polish season after season and now relegate.
@cichy
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Most of us thinks that polish tactical knowledge is better as the league is stronger. You change that way of thinking ;]
to win your first division you need older players, but with good management you can maintain average mark of 75-78 for lot of seasons and have average age of 29 whole the time
Sure thing. But it's easier in Croatia to do it as you can lower the power of your team a bit and still win the division. In Poland it's most likely a risky situation. A lot of times you'll end up playing in the play-offs for the second league.
http://online.sokker.org/comment/matchID/22235419
and as you can see in a recent play off game (above) a second league team played for 81,5% and knocked down a 74% team. The only champion ever that didn't go lower then second league.
so after making your team younger and taking it down to 75% it's a lottery for a polish player. will i stay or will i go now
But I agree it is possible. But i think it would require a lot of DT and i mean ALOT of it to win the polish season after season and now relegate.
@cichy
bák
dziecinada po raz kolejny, czas dorosnąć
vs Wisła Puławy; 4:13 in shots. 73.9 vs 79.4
obiously, lucky :P
vs Pomioty Szatana; 12:6 in shots. 76.1 vs 71.6
lol - GK injury ['6th minute] + 4 [!] red cards for Pomioty ['12, '27, '52, '81]. Still, with 9 man Pomioty were leading till 3rd red card 1:0
even more lucky + Pomioty's manager was already blocked from what I remember...but I'm not sure about this
vs FC Chełmek; 10:6 in shots. 72.8 vs 73.1
injury for Chełmek's striker = he used a very weak ATT [51 rating] for whole second half. but it's his fault for not having a proper reserve striker, so deserved victory
vs Marko Team, 3:14 in shots. 71.9 vs 72.7
'60 red for Marko, '64 and '85 red card for you
it was 3:0 before the first red, so deserve loss I guess
So...4 games, 1 deserved win, 1 deserved loss, 2 lucky wins...:P
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obiously, lucky :P
vs Pomioty Szatana; 12:6 in shots. 76.1 vs 71.6
lol - GK injury ['6th minute] + 4 [!] red cards for Pomioty ['12, '27, '52, '81]. Still, with 9 man Pomioty were leading till 3rd red card 1:0
even more lucky + Pomioty's manager was already blocked from what I remember...but I'm not sure about this
vs FC Chełmek; 10:6 in shots. 72.8 vs 73.1
injury for Chełmek's striker = he used a very weak ATT [51 rating] for whole second half. but it's his fault for not having a proper reserve striker, so deserved victory
vs Marko Team, 3:14 in shots. 71.9 vs 72.7
'60 red for Marko, '64 and '85 red card for you
it was 3:0 before the first red, so deserve loss I guess
So...4 games, 1 deserved win, 1 deserved loss, 2 lucky wins...:P
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