Asunto: »7170 managers in Sokker!

It stoped now... Let's see what happens now...

It got slower yes......

Last hours no new user in waitingg list... Maybe greg had fixed the bug... F.... :(

That's it. The universe has finally stopped expanding, Sokker being the most precise instrument to detect this crucial cosmic event. Now it's all the way back to the Big Crunch...

There was some cleaning.

I think the numbers says it all, the relation between registered users and online at the moment:

Brasil 4349 / 5
Argentina 2597 / 1
Colombia 2637 / 1
and so on..

- The internet and app industry is huge in south america, so the combination of Facebook apps, better internet infrastructure in those countries made it happen.
- Google started pushing up mobile friendly pages, sokker got better ranking now.
- More people found this game through the new mobile game app perhaps...

or

- Sokker bought visitors to this site to boost this game and the mobile game, as many do today for their blogs, homepages, and social media pages. (But this one is a very long shot).

at the end though, nothing of these really matters,
We already got the answer by looking to the numbers, fake users or not.. its not going to work anyway. Sokker is not modern enough for todays kids, it has to develop to have a chance again.

You do know what the time is in those countries right now??? Also that they cant transfer or forum the first week??? True, the new 30k users, only 2-5 k are going to stay.... what we need is to have the growth to continue.... it has always been like this, and will always be, that not many new stay.... and is in probably even all games on internet..... very few of registrered stays... but if we can have continued growth, then the few % staying, will be enough... :)

Brasil 4349 / 5
Argentina 2597 / 1
Colombia 2637 / 1

http://www.poodwaddle.com/worldclock/

I'm also not very often online at 4 or 5 at night :/

So you guys are of course right about the time, but does really look better when they are awake? ... not many of them even login again after registration, thats my point about the numbers telling it all.

I think a design solution is a good idea while the game is growing. I have uploaded a screen for a manager game concept that i had a while ago, if someone finds it interesting. Visit the freestyle forums and check it.

http://sokker.org/forum_topic/ID_forum/1260/ID_topic/3116821/pg/0#new

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Alot better than the current one but im afraid its never gonna be implemented or improved. Developers already paid several times to "designers" in this game and we have what we have. I dont think they are gonna update the design anytime soon again. Maybe im wrong tho.

not many of them even login again after registration, thats my point about the numbers telling it all.

It's always been like that. If all managers kept playing, Sokker would have a millions of users ;)

The number of managers loging in more as once should be higher and many ideas are suggested to make that happen. Unfortunatly DEVs .... well, we all know the problem.

I agree with you. Design has changed a few times, and every time the first suggestion is... change the design again :P There's never going to be a design that everybody likes, there's always going to be disgruntled people who liked the old one better, and in the end the idea that a new design would work wonders for Sokker is at best a conjecture. It has been tried without any noticeable result, so it is unlikely to happen again, and it is also unlikely that it should as a top priority.

Maybe because there is good design and bad design...ipod was still a mp3 player like thousands others out there..
As you wrote, the implemented designs has been horrible from the start.

ipod was still a mp3 player like thousands others out there..

And it still is.

Call it "bad" or "good", I'm willing to bet any amount you choose that, the moment you introduce a new design, a legion of both supporters and haters will appear.
You criticize the people who did the work, fine, but so would others criticize you.

As you wrote, the implemented designs has been horrible from the start.

I never said anything about any design being horrible. What I said is I never shared the repeated claim that Sokker needs "a better design" (whatever that means) more than anything.

"and every time the first suggestion is... change the design again :P"
This wouldn't be the case if it wouldn't be horrible.

I don't know what you know about design, but mostly if something is well designed it gives an added value and less people will bash it in opposite of what you think... it will rather attract people. But small entrepreneurs don't have the money to hire good designers..

Yes ipod is still a mp3 player, but i think you got my point... it was designed differently so it became innovative, sold more and became iconic. Yes others may criticize me, but still there is quality and quantity...and its easier for users or customers to adapt to good design if its simple and nice.

Thats is why there is only one iphone, one macbook etc... but the market share is pretty equal to thousand other phone models and so on. Because apple for example made it just more simple and nice.. and thought about the customer. People pay more money for quality, you can get monster win laptop for a normal macbook that doesn't have monster specs really. PLUS users would be happy to pay and subscribe if the product would be better, and the drop rate would improve.

Still we see this differently, I'm not looking to throw horse shit here, i love the game and appreciate that it was made. But everything have to evolve, specially in tech. And I'm looking for solutions.

I work as a professional product and graphic designer and talk from experience. I help entrepreneurs to realize their ideas, so i thought i could suggest improvements.


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