Asunto: »7170 managers in Sokker!

Bots, bots everywhere...

... like always? Bottom league was almost always a complete botleague.

Devs would change this, but unfortunately they didn't.
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I mean all those new awaiting users. It is obvious that bottom leagues are mostly consisted of bots and despite the recent boom in the numer of users, surprisingly the activity on the transfer market did not change and I haven't seen (m)any players on TL from countries which have recently recorded a massive growth in the number of users, e.g. Colombia and Misr. Isn't it strange?
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team validations is made by admins..to make fake users, developers must make many fake ip, which is improbable
you (all) fight for a stupid cause, take it how it is

It is just not a normal situation, so I will not take it as it is. Look at the bottom Colombian leagues - there are virtually no activity among new users.

Here You have one example:

http://sokker.org/league?division=4&ID_country=36&official=1&=&name_league=Primera+D.05

the game is boring when you play first time, it's too complicated, people want easy game, they have other preferences in life
the strong part of sokker is forum but not everybody want to talk

That doesn't explain everything, but nevermind, You have Your opinion and I have mine

Isn't it strange?

Depends of what you look for. New managers are often not that active at the beginning, they need time to get started. And they don't have junior schools yet, but if they do get a junior school they most probably go bankrupt instead of pulling nice players to sell on the TL.

And Sokker isn't an easy game, new managers should get a better tutorial or more help. In large(r) Sokker countries a lot of info can be found on the national forums, in small(er) countries a lot less. Ofcourse there is the international forum, but I think it is way more inviting to find info in your own language on a national forum.

And one more thing, the forum Newbie Questions isn't even a default forum :S New managers have to add this to their own list, but without any help it's hard to find. DEVs refuse to add this forum to default list, for some unknown DEV reason.

http://sokker.org/forum/ID_forum/4750

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For sure you are right at some points, but generally I meant all those new clubs with strange, bot-like user names. They all appear to be set for the purpose other than playing soker, but what is this purposse, I still haven't found any explanation.

BTW, your tutorial should be sent to all new users as a form of a welcome message. I think it would help a lot, but since there's virtually no contact with devs, this game stands still.
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I think many of the new users just made an account to check out Sokker, not even with the intention yet to start playing, just to have a look because they saw the game on FB, Youtube or somewhere else. I have send hundreds or even thousands welcome mails to new Dutch users, most had (kinda) normal names, but some used very strange names and/or numbers. Most of them I didn't expect to come back and that was what happened. But now and then such a strange name is a 'serious' name for someone else and the manager did play for a longer time.

So I don't think those accounts are made for a reason because without daily logins or a continuous high number of new daily/weekly sign ups no one has anything to gain with fake accounts. Many or even most of those new accounts are just 'check out Sokker' accounts I think. And because Sokker isn't an easy game, many don't take the time to learn the game.

I hope many managers will translate and use the tutorial as some newbie tutorial on their national forum or even send the link as some welcome text. Unfortunately the DEVs won't use it because it gives away too many (personal) tips and direct links to TL.


EDIT: for those who are interested, this is the tutorial (link to word doc at the end of first post): How to get started with Sokker tutorial

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the game is boring when you play first time, it's too complicated, people want easy game, they have other preferences in life
the strong part of sokker is forum but not everybody want to talk

Are you kidding mate ?? This game should have a lot of improvements: for example, do you think if a new user that trains an 18yo player (bought with a price between 1 or 2 million(s) euros), still wants to train that player, even if he lose weeks of training (caused by 20-30 days injury, for example) ? I'm sure that he will quit this game definitively.

For us is something else. We know all about this game and we have 5-6-7....10 years spent here. For newbies is not ok.

You think this is the reason why people quit?:) It´s not easy for a newbie to buy a player for 1-2 million euros. I have been for 3 years with my new team and still haven`t bought this expensive juniors.

too many lazy peoples...

we do not need this kind guys.....

This are guys what mean, click, click and win cup and click, click and won First league.

If you want to be the best, must work hard in reall life and same in sokker.
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lol. Newbies and 1 or 2 million euro trainees :P

There are a lot of reasons why newbies quit Sokker too soon, but million euro trainees is absolutely not one of them :D

I think the main reason is that it takes too much time to achieve something, win some medals.]

Like I play this game for 6 years now and still don't have a shot of reaching something better in CC. Although maybe I could win a few rounds if I invest a lot.
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Let's make a game where you won't get any injury,your players (and only your players) grow 5 points at every skills, daily, and you are the head coach of all the national teams, but I still belive that you'll find something else to complain.
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