Asunto: »7170 managers in Sokker!

This new skin is very poor.
leaves away new users...
Back to sokker classic!
Please.

you can just change to old skin -.-

pattern to new users.

This new skin is very poor.

Might be for some, others will disagree... A valid opinion in any case.

leaves away new users...

This, instead, is not about opinions but facts. Do you have any evidence of the skin influencing new users' permanence? And the old skin being better at that?

We have lost some old school users in Sweden during the latest months, so its obvious that the curve is pointing to the wrong direction. Really worried for the Swedish community and for the game overall.

IMO, its a critical period for the game, a little bit like "change, innovate or die" situation where they have to keep up with tech.

The core of the game (for me the community and users) will die in 2-3 years, the site may be online for many more years though.
But we are loosing very important users, and you cant copy loyal people that buy your product, but the match engine and other functions in the game can always be remade and re-invented.

I have tried to contact Greg many times, also offering design partnership, but no response.

It is a sad situation, but nothing exists for ever, if it dies, it dies...

I just feel bad for the community, and those people that we got to know and talk to, what happens when the game gets unplugged one day? there is no other place where everyone can enjoy and communicate.

We need a Plan B guys, if we use the six steps of seperation method, then we could reach people who would like to invest and re-create this game. Some user here knows someone, im sure of it =)

And this is what i think, dont have to be the right thing, but its better then just accepting this situation,

just the wait time before the games for non- plus members says it all about managaments attitude.

game is dead

What is the six steps of separation method?

You mean back to 90's. I would like too

Six steps of separation or six degrees of separation is a proven method that works, its also been tested by Colombia university and many other places..
The idea is basically, if you want to come in contact with someone you don't know, even if it would be a famous person on the other side of the globe, then you could start with someone near you, and go trough six people to come in contact with that person. Someone knows always someone who knows someone else..

So someone on this forums knows people who probably are interested to invest money in a new game, a evolution of this game for example.


(editado)

read more here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_degrees_of_separation


(editado)

" (...) We need a Plan B guys, if we use the six steps of seperation method, then we could reach people who would like to invest and re-create this game. Some user here knows someone, im sure of it =)

And this is what i think, dont have to be the right thing, but its better then just accepting this situation,

just the wait time before the games for non- plus members says it all about managaments attitude. "
___________________________________________________________________________

OK - Lets find first a common target for PLAN B and go step by step backwards.

3. Final milestone is making some changes (improvements) in the game.
2. The milestone before this, is to find somebody (or create a "structure"), that will buy the game from Greg.
1. The first milestone is to find a common language to communicate - so I start with this point

1. common language to communicate
I ask everybody who wants to be part of this project, to prefer the use of "yes and" instead of "no". If we want to build this project, we have to communicate in a constractive way.

For now, I stop here - I want to see if there is a resonance about it, till Monday. If you think this may be possible and you might put some action or some ideas, just write here please a small comment.
After Monday, me, perhaps ila-a and perhaps you, we will open a new topic to start a projectplan.
__
(editado)

the perfect game, football strategy, have 400 users
people likes stupid things. all that matters is "direction" in a social world, a shepherd and his sheeps

the fact is that in seven years of sokker 85% of the changes were for the worse.

Placing advertisements for non plus and changing the skin to a horrible certainly not the most correct way .

And who knows if the developer still cares about the game?

The core of the game (for me the community and users) will die in 2-3 years, the site may be online for many more years though.

+1
But why? only the game itself?
I think the life on the forums show another part.
Remember that sokker attract (od did it in the past..) a certain typology of users. Imho if we analize WHO IS the "sokker user profile" it will show that what works for other games, maybe here is wrong.

That's what I thought it is, thanks for the link!

Tsolias, it is a good idea.