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Asunto: [NT] World Cup Qualification
borkos007 para
Legend [del]
The fact is that nothing in this match engine changed for years. If they tried to change it, everyone would see it from day one, because even with previous owners the match engine changes were extremely visible and always needed lots of improvements after each attempt to change.
Now they have new programmers who don't know and don't understand the code. They fail even when they try to change the Club Site view and every change they make creates LOTS of bugs. Let's be realistic and logical, if they tried to change anything in the engine, the matches would probably stop working.
They don't have enough money to finish changing the basics in 2 years (the layout etc.) and you think they started changing the most complicated part of the game, that didn't really need changing because it was working fine for years...
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But you didn't answer my question.
Since the visualisation was change 2 years ago and apparently then you think the match engine was changed - do you think that last two World Cups don't matter because they were random? Or then it was perfectly fine, because you liked the results, and now the game is broken suddenly - because you don't like the results?
It's amazing how people who win never say that the match engine is broken...
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Now they have new programmers who don't know and don't understand the code. They fail even when they try to change the Club Site view and every change they make creates LOTS of bugs. Let's be realistic and logical, if they tried to change anything in the engine, the matches would probably stop working.
They don't have enough money to finish changing the basics in 2 years (the layout etc.) and you think they started changing the most complicated part of the game, that didn't really need changing because it was working fine for years...
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But you didn't answer my question.
Since the visualisation was change 2 years ago and apparently then you think the match engine was changed - do you think that last two World Cups don't matter because they were random? Or then it was perfectly fine, because you liked the results, and now the game is broken suddenly - because you don't like the results?
It's amazing how people who win never say that the match engine is broken...
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Legend [del] para
Royal Flush
So we agree about the score , that was unrealistic.
This is good.
Also is good that you know and understand that there is a difference between attackers.
You felt robbed because your player accepted red card and lose the first match against Hellas.
How can i feel with the result against Ecuador?
How can i feel with the result against Spain 1-7 (friendly match - shots 4-14)?
How can i feel with the match against Turkiye (U27 european championship - 3 goals in extra time?)
Anyway.
My opinion (i see the most matches in qualification phase) is that the random percentage became huge.
This is good.
Also is good that you know and understand that there is a difference between attackers.
You felt robbed because your player accepted red card and lose the first match against Hellas.
How can i feel with the result against Ecuador?
How can i feel with the result against Spain 1-7 (friendly match - shots 4-14)?
How can i feel with the match against Turkiye (U27 european championship - 3 goals in extra time?)
Anyway.
My opinion (i see the most matches in qualification phase) is that the random percentage became huge.
Legend [del] para
borkos007
You are continue to try to don't understand.
It's amazing how people who want to convince us about their opinion, try to ''lead'' the discussion ιν their own words.
I answered to you. I write and an example of real football.
Of course there was random percentage. But logical percentage.
You don't answer me too.
Find the results in previous qualifications phases (two previous qualifications phases) and compare with current qyalification phase.
If you have a result, we can discuss about it.
It's amazing how people who want to convince us about their opinion, try to ''lead'' the discussion ιν their own words.
I answered to you. I write and an example of real football.
Of course there was random percentage. But logical percentage.
You don't answer me too.
Find the results in previous qualifications phases (two previous qualifications phases) and compare with current qyalification phase.
If you have a result, we can discuss about it.
borkos007 para
Legend [del]
you want me to go through all qualifying results from last years and compare them statistically with current qualifiers? :-D
it's your theory that something changed, please feel free to do this research, show us the results and prove it
for now you're just nitpicking results you don't like
I answered to you. I write and an example of real football.
I asked a different thing, so please answer, I'm trying for the 3rd time:
Since the visualisation was changed 2 years ago and you think the match engine was changed then - do you think that last two World Cups don't matter because they were random?
it's your theory that something changed, please feel free to do this research, show us the results and prove it
for now you're just nitpicking results you don't like
I answered to you. I write and an example of real football.
I asked a different thing, so please answer, I'm trying for the 3rd time:
Since the visualisation was changed 2 years ago and you think the match engine was changed then - do you think that last two World Cups don't matter because they were random?
Royal Flush para
Legend [del]
So we agree about the score , that was unrealistic.
This is good.
Also is good that you know and understand that there is a difference between attackers.
Is that your takeaway from my reply?
I said it might be a little exaggerated, I didn't say it was unrealistic...
I have seen plenty of games in real life where the team with inferior attackers won the game :D
Attackers aren't the only decisive factor.
Also, our attacker that scored 2 goals is the attacker from team that won the Polish championship. So it's not like Belgian attackers are a bunch of losers :p
This is good.
Also is good that you know and understand that there is a difference between attackers.
Is that your takeaway from my reply?
I said it might be a little exaggerated, I didn't say it was unrealistic...
I have seen plenty of games in real life where the team with inferior attackers won the game :D
Attackers aren't the only decisive factor.
Also, our attacker that scored 2 goals is the attacker from team that won the Polish championship. So it's not like Belgian attackers are a bunch of losers :p
Michele79 para
Royal Flush
Spezia - Inter 2-1 (4 shots vs 28)
It isn't sokker, it is SERIE A (yesterday!)
It isn't sokker, it is SERIE A (yesterday!)
sviktorov para
Royal Flush
My opinion is that you can't change all in game frequency of games training injury ratio and not affect the engine. When current engine was implemented a lot of tunning was done to achieve balance in results. I do not believe that in the past there were so few surprises and now almost every second game is random...
Something was touched or affected and to be honest the trust in devs long gone . Several times I trey to give another chance and I'm always disappointed. Just wait for the unpopular changes to come in place...
I think with speeding the game the want us just to check results...
@borkos almighty tell me if no red cards no injuries no tactical changes how do many games go from 4:1 to 4;4 even 4:5 I never experienced such thing in soay years here ...
Something was touched or affected and to be honest the trust in devs long gone . Several times I trey to give another chance and I'm always disappointed. Just wait for the unpopular changes to come in place...
I think with speeding the game the want us just to check results...
@borkos almighty tell me if no red cards no injuries no tactical changes how do many games go from 4:1 to 4;4 even 4:5 I never experienced such thing in soay years here ...
Back to topic seems Panama is the unlucky team to not qualify as second...
Last question will random will stop Nicaragua...
Last question will random will stop Nicaragua...
When current engine was implemented a lot of tunning was done to achieve balance in results
you're wrong and you don't know where the problem comes from
the engine was changed to help smaller NTs and smaller clubs so they don't lose 0:20
they introduced a handicap to limit those scores, but they messed up and created a situation where much weaker team [not only in ratings, also in game - for example 15:2 shots = 2nd teams is considered weaker] is getting help from the engine - the ME lowers chances for scoring in better team and improves chances in worse team
that's why we get shitty games with 12:4 in shots and 2:3 in goals
but it was introduced at least 12 years ago
@borkos almighty tell me if no red cards no injuries no tactical changes how do many games go from 4:1 to 4;4 even 4:5 I never experienced such thing in soay years here ...
that's actually very logical for this game... if it's a close game with chances on both sides it's normal that in 1 out of 100 games it will be 3:0 and then 3:3 or 3:4... the game doesn't take the result into consideration while generating the game
1st half
team x has 5 good situations = scores 3/5
team y has 5 good situations = scores 0/5
2nd half
team x has 5 good situations = scores 0/5
team y has 5 good situations = scores 3/5
result = 3:3
it's actually quite possible and statistically has to happen from time to time
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the match engine is far from perfect and always was...
I remember a NT friendly game with Italy where I totally messed up the players positions
I used a defender as winger, midfielder as attack etc.
....and I destroyed Germany 6:2 [18:9] shots - that was in 2013... click
from that time...3 games of Italy in a row:
4:1 Poland [12:14 shots]
3:3 Azerbaycan [12:8 shots]
3:1 Sverige [16:5]
from same season... Italia 1:2 Israel [12:7] / Italy 5:0 Poland [15:8]
nothing change, it's your imagination... EVERY season we have lots of stupid result in National Cup where a top team gets eliminated very unluckily
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you're wrong and you don't know where the problem comes from
the engine was changed to help smaller NTs and smaller clubs so they don't lose 0:20
they introduced a handicap to limit those scores, but they messed up and created a situation where much weaker team [not only in ratings, also in game - for example 15:2 shots = 2nd teams is considered weaker] is getting help from the engine - the ME lowers chances for scoring in better team and improves chances in worse team
that's why we get shitty games with 12:4 in shots and 2:3 in goals
but it was introduced at least 12 years ago
@borkos almighty tell me if no red cards no injuries no tactical changes how do many games go from 4:1 to 4;4 even 4:5 I never experienced such thing in soay years here ...
that's actually very logical for this game... if it's a close game with chances on both sides it's normal that in 1 out of 100 games it will be 3:0 and then 3:3 or 3:4... the game doesn't take the result into consideration while generating the game
1st half
team x has 5 good situations = scores 3/5
team y has 5 good situations = scores 0/5
2nd half
team x has 5 good situations = scores 0/5
team y has 5 good situations = scores 3/5
result = 3:3
it's actually quite possible and statistically has to happen from time to time
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the match engine is far from perfect and always was...
I remember a NT friendly game with Italy where I totally messed up the players positions
I used a defender as winger, midfielder as attack etc.
....and I destroyed Germany 6:2 [18:9] shots - that was in 2013... click
from that time...3 games of Italy in a row:
4:1 Poland [12:14 shots]
3:3 Azerbaycan [12:8 shots]
3:1 Sverige [16:5]
from same season... Italia 1:2 Israel [12:7] / Italy 5:0 Poland [15:8]
nothing change, it's your imagination... EVERY season we have lots of stupid result in National Cup where a top team gets eliminated very unluckily
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drunkenmaster para
borkos007
Αll non Polish users imagine thinks.Only Polish users are intelligent
borkos007 para
Legend [del]
Please, I will give you examples from my second championship if you want to see how it was before in a 'good engine". 2015.
Games I lost points in [with superdivine GK, ATTs that had superdivine striker]:
The Evil`s - FC Krikos 2:2 [shots 7:3]
Lokomotiv Ostrów Wielkopolski - The Evil`s 1:1 [shots 6:9]
FC Krikos - The Evil`s 2:1 [shots 8:14]
The Evil`s - Marko Team 1:1 [shots 17:2] :-DDD
The Evil`s - coldfear 1:2 [shots 8:5]
so yes, "now" it's not working and random... of course :-)
Games I lost points in [with superdivine GK, ATTs that had superdivine striker]:
The Evil`s - FC Krikos 2:2 [shots 7:3]
Lokomotiv Ostrów Wielkopolski - The Evil`s 1:1 [shots 6:9]
FC Krikos - The Evil`s 2:1 [shots 8:14]
The Evil`s - Marko Team 1:1 [shots 17:2] :-DDD
The Evil`s - coldfear 1:2 [shots 8:5]
so yes, "now" it's not working and random... of course :-)
borkos007 para
drunkenmaster
Well so far we know that your English is very bad and that you are a liar, because you lied about me.
You also constantly talk about lack of intelligence, being stupid etc. so it's quite possible that you have some kind of complex.
You also constantly talk about lack of intelligence, being stupid etc. so it's quite possible that you have some kind of complex.
drunkenmaster para
borkos007
about lack of intelligence, being stupid etc. so it's quite possible that you have some kind of complex.
What an awsum answer!I think that you admire yourself.You are the smart guy of course it is obvious
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What an awsum answer!I think that you admire yourself.You are the smart guy of course it is obvious
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borkos007 para
drunkenmaster
You also constantly talk about lack of intelligence
seriously, you have some kind of problem... you bring nothing to the conversation, bye
seriously, you have some kind of problem... you bring nothing to the conversation, bye
drunkenmaster para
borkos007
I have many thinks to say but not with you of course.And the other guys are writing ideas but you dont listen them do you genius?
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