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Asunto: »[U21] World Cup

2022-07-04 11:54:52
Indeed, we do love this game!
The devs dont see our love, this is the biggest problem of all.

So we need to stand up to tell them we do love the game!
Untill now the devs choose the wrong direction, they run away for problems.
Sometimes it looks like they dont love the game themselves...
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2022-07-04 12:13:37
Poey para Poey
99% of the community thinks this decision is wrong, not bringing The Netherlands to the WC. Even the devs did communicate this themselves.

So the best way to show the community they do listen to us is solving this bug.
This is real marketing!!!
2022-07-04 12:56:18
Well, i just giving my opinion.

Like i said, i dont know what really happened here. And, it just from my perspective.

If you thinks like that, i dont really care about that.

If you thinks my opinion is useless, i dont really care.

I just wanna the problem is finished. I won't be in Netherland side or developers.

For Netherland, if you wanna continue to speak up, go on.

For developera, if you wanna hold your decision, go on.

As long as we can having fun here, its enough for me.

Good luck for Netherland and their alliances.
2022-07-04 13:18:48
Thanks, we will continue to speak up.
2022-07-04 13:42:59
''Just one question, if you dont like about the decision, why you still here??''


And I will only answer on this question cause everything else is just invalid for me;

1. This decision has just been made
2. This decision is a bullshit decision imo, if this were to happen to Poland, what do you think would've happend?
3. As you say your opinion on the matter, WE say our opinion on the matter, untill then I wont leave. Poey worked hard to get us into the World cup, and all his work just in vains like that, how is that fair?
4. I'm a passionate football freak, should say enough why I'm still here.

#JusticeforTheNetherlands
2022-07-04 13:59:23
mauser para EJ
#JusticeforTheNetherlands

we should not forget that it's not only about the Netherlands. There probably will be the same situation next season with senior WC, and I wonder why nobody complains here from the groups of 5 in WC qualification. Maybe they all think that it won't get them, but it will...
2022-07-04 14:06:21
EJ para mauser
It isn't only about The Netherlands at all, the whole future of the game, the community and everything going forward from here.

But if people dont stand up for this, exactly what you said will become true ;).

#JusticeforNL
2022-07-04 14:08:33
(I used google translate)

I don't want to create/feed wars.
Of course I was happy that Sweden were present at the finals of the world championship. And this is because I think the rules were not communicated well at the beginning. during the time I asked some users to know how the tabulation would be processed because it wasn't for all the 2nds... Only after seeing a post by tsolias did I realize that sweden would not be present and I even criticized the decision publicly and then tsolias showed me a 2022-03-25 publication of the rules and that "I will publish the exact rules soon."
I confess that I still haven't been able to see where this publication is, but as tsolias transcribed it "..." it's a sign that it was written.
I think this should be more clear. I hope that in the coming seasons it will be clear because I don't know if it will stay that way.
I'm representing sweden and I'll do my best for them, (we had a difficult dispute to overcome Vietnam and Russia) but if for the good of the sokker in general it would be better for sweden not to participate... that Sweden was out I put it on the Swedish forum that I would not re-apply...
I think that even these distributions of the groups are not great, but changing them make it clear because if the rules are well known at the beginning, we may not agree but we accept.
hug to everyone
2022-07-04 14:09:44
Why can't I fix the bug manually (change Sweden with Netherlands)?

Maybe such a solution for the future ?:

1. Increase the number of NT by 4 countries, e.g. Northern Ireland, Kosovo, Liechtenstein or Qatar, Kuwait, Puerto Rico, Bahrain etc.

2. In countries with no or little active users, juniors academy should be obligatory in the top division. Juniors from these academies should automatically be contracted by the club after leaving the academy

3. National coaches should have "semi-admin privilages" to post players from bot clubs on the TL
2022-07-04 14:20:00
Not sure that Kosovo is really a country. Would make more sens to add Feroe Islands instead...
2022-07-04 14:27:42
They play in real live qualifications so i write them. Of course, they can be other countries (with a large number of people with internet access)
2022-07-04 14:37:34
Poey para mauser
I know why some People dont complain.
People do complain if they are harmed directly.

So if Poland ( more users ) should have been harmed with this bug there would be lots of complains.
I am even sure the bug would have been solved.

So i ask everybody in sokker to stand up for this unfair decision.
It will happen to you in the future.
2022-07-04 20:04:04
Faroe Islands already are in the game. They are jus unused, there is more of such countries.
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2022-07-04 20:29:10
Thats why I see it as better option to remove teams, then each wc season have playoffs for next season wcq
2022-07-04 20:30:39
So if Poland ( more users ) should have been harmed with this bug there would be lots of complains.
I am even sure the bug would have been solved.


You mistake a bug with data broken by the bug. The "bug" is much difficult to fix, it would take a lot of time probably and it wouldn't be fixed in such case. The corrupted data which, in this case, is Sweden instead of The Netherlands in WC U21, seems easy to fix, but I am not sure that if much more users (the Polish community) would start to complain, it would have an effect. Devs just don't think that the kind of elimination round we are trying to suggest as the best way (the one like in normal, real football) would be good. I also don't think any complains or +1s of any number of users will change their mind. Valid arguments maybe, but complaints, doubtfully. Also, take into account that they rarely come here, read messages etc. There is very little chance that they (Raul, because no one else come here) will read any message until Friday and even if he will I wouldn't hope for more than one response.
2022-07-04 20:35:34
remove teams? I dont think I understand what You want to achieve with that

I was rather thinking about filling the smaller groups with teams like Faroe Islands to have equal number of teams in the group.