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Asunto: NEWS Sokker- big changes are coming!

2023-01-23 20:41:52
Mikoos para Dtox9
But it is much harder for new teams to get to that point, since all players have increased a huge lot in price for buying.
Before you could buy yourself 22 1€ players and train them all in pace and earn yourself some millions each season.
Try to do that now... with only 10% of available players like before and 95% of managers with more money than you, looking for a player to buy...
You simply cannot gather enough players to train properly, let alone them being good enough to make money on them.


You can do it, it's easy when you now what to do... There is a club in Poland that started in September and made A LOT of profit on multiple players.
2023-01-23 20:42:02
For example when you look at 19yo att with 30 points in att skills it's let's say about 10M euro now... but 3 seasons ago you could buy it for a million or two. The main reason is not the inflation of money, just the quality of players being much lower. Standards for top youths changed.

yup, exactly

current 19yo is in fact closer to the level of an 18yo in previous system
2023-01-23 20:45:40
Exactly, some of his first profits [divide by 4 to get euro price]

2022-10-26 Pędźące Ślimaki 2 FC Zvijezda 3 330 000 zł
(502 000 zł)
2022-09-11 Milanesa Beef Pędźące Ślimaki 2 16 000 zł
(524 000 zł)

2022-10-29 Pędźące Ślimaki 2 FC GÜZELCE KÖYÜ 5 307 500 zł
(481 000 zł)
2022-09-17 Real Madrid X Pędźące Ślimaki 2 118 000 zł
(393 000 zł)

2022-12-05 Pędźące Ślimaki 2 Arsenal_86 13 318 000 zł
(633 000 zł)
2022-11-05 nyU Pędźące Ślimaki 2 55 000 zł
(334 000 zł)

just look at the last one... and these are all players trained just for a month/month and a half

top money thanks also to inflation, which can be greatly invested in training, in youth school, in players, in stadium to bring even more profits

inflation is good for new and small teams, simple as that.
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2023-01-23 20:59:55
To add to the discussion as I have a quite new team. It is really easy to make a lot of money fast. Borkos is right, it is easier now than it ever was.
The problem with sokker for new users is and always has been the same. There is small room for error at the start. So if you don’t know what you’re doing from the start you become bancrupt really quick and never come back to the game. But this is somewhat another discussion with the easy solution being making a proper tutorial to start with.
2023-01-23 21:00:42
basing on the data You provided I would say it is good for traders
I dont think game should push new players towards trading
shouldnt they be just playing the football game from the start? not a trading game
2023-01-23 21:03:15
it is and always was a trading game + football game

@The Ripper
exactly
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2023-01-23 21:21:12
Dtox9 para Mikoos
There is a club in Poland that started in September and made A LOT of profit on multiple players.

Yes... over 100 transfers in 4 months...
So basically... don't ever worry about the football part of the game and just focus on the trading part and you will have 3 billion euro's in a matter of years.
Can we change the name in Sokker Trader then?
Maybe this isn't the game I was looking for in the end...
2023-01-23 21:46:56
gordo. para Dtox9
Can someone explain to me why until today they haven't put the coaches' retirement?
A trainer over 100 years old is up for auction.
If they want to reduce inflation this would work great as we usually spend 2M euros or more to find a decent trainer and that money adds up because it doesn't go to anyone. Can you imagine how much they wouldn't pay for a trainer under 40 at the "
Magical or Uneartly level at auction?!?
That would work... Coaches retiring between 60 and 80y

Another option would be some world-class players created in bot teams and released for auction, at some predefined times of the season. That way, the money that will be used there will go out of circulation because it won't go to anyone. This would also help create some good players for the smaller countries!
2023-01-23 21:59:53
Well, if you get a great coach today you are settled for life, if coach retirement were implemented, forcing people to look for new coachs after a while, that would help to sink money in other place than the player market.
2023-01-23 22:01:55
Mikoos para Dtox9
You say: Before you could buy yourself 22 1€ players and train them all in pace and earn yourself some millions each season. Try to do that now...

I give you example of person doing exactly this - buying cheap players, training them, selling for big money.

You start talking about trading... sure you can call it trading, but how is it relevant to the discussion? It's you who started talking about buying 22 players at the beginning and then selling them for profit...
2023-01-23 22:15:14
To create additional costs in the game, the club can create Youth Academy in other countries. For example, I open the club's Academy in Cameroon and train Cameroonian youth. Since it is another country, the costs are several times higher.
Academy costs and coach costs can be several times higher than normal YS costs. Only in small countries should it be possible to open an academy.
2023-01-23 22:16:06
+10000000
2023-01-23 23:13:10
Important info for NTs:

Raul do Behmen

I get the info that button to allow visible skills for NT will be added in few days. After week it will start working (one week to set personal preferences to users)
2023-01-24 00:22:42
The background color of the 1st place in the league table is too dark...

The financial system works just fine now, because the game has picked up, and I think there is a balance between the rhythm of the game and the financial income: Now the players age so quickly that it is already a serious headache to maintain the team's playing power. If you reduce the income, then the supply of players will become impossible, and it will increase the number of people leaving the game, especially in the higher divisions. Rather, the sources of income for the lower classes should be increased so that it is easier to climb from the bottom, so that even beginners can get a gaming experience sooner as a result of their invested time and work. - It is a huge blunder that you want to constantly slow down the game and thus the game experience; before the big change, Sokker became almost unplayable, everything slowed down so much. A fast-paced game will retain far more users than a boring, drawn-out game.
Currently the time ratio is 1/6, but the aging and training of the players is not in balance with this, and if you take away the money for this, the game experience will be such a disaster that the game will not be fun enough.

Two things make the game enjoyable:
- training as quickly as possible - level steps;
- the most money that circulates on the player market.
2023-01-24 01:03:54
juytt para Mikoos
Here is average price of sold players in the last 4 seasons:

It doesn’t mean much things since most of players are not most valuable players (average price is 1,2M now in your graph, but we talk about 10M€ as common price now….) Compare the average price of top players on 4 seasons whatever the skills for some equal age and let’s see ;-p
2023-01-24 07:29:42
10M+ Common?

Best I've gotten is 5,7 mill for a youth player in my whole career here.
And that's after training that player in my team for over 2 seasons, because he was worthless when he came out of the youth school, but I knew his talent was mega...
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