Asunto: NEWS Sokker- big changes are coming!

Hello. I understand that you want to match teams, but 10% of a sale is a lot. They made a mistake in the way of doing it in my way of seeing things. I just bought a Chilean media outlet for 15.3 million. He is not a top player, most of his skills are incredible and I only bought him to train him well and be a contribution to the national team. If I manage to sell it for 16.5 million, I'm going to lose money and don't tell me what it brings to the team because I could get 2 better older players and I would have had money left over. 1.- They were able to collect that 10% on the profits (not on the total sale) 2.- They could start with 10% on the sale, but it would reach 5% if the player spends 1 or 2 seasons in the team.

borkos007 to Wezel01

Inflation is not good for new players. For players who have a lot of money; inflation is not that bad. They just buy trainees for a bit more money, but they sell these players for X% more. For a succesful sokker player; inflation is not that much of a struggle. It's almost like real life ;) I agree with you that tackling inflation is not directly bringing players; but from my point of view it definitely improves the game.

that's not true

inflation is very good for new users, you forgot that in the beginning users mostly fight vs the system - and the system has FIXED prices [stadium, wages, coaches, youth schools etc.] - so these costs are not affected by inflation.

This means that you are able to improve the stadium, get good coaches, open youth school etc. much faster than if you played 6 or 8 years ago.

With the crappy amount of money you get early game, this is not a priority. The only priority you have is: Get a trainer with 2 unearthly skills, and try to buy some crappy players who can make some profit. You don't touch your stadium until you have some extra money from your sells.


As for transfers - you don't compete with big teams on transfer market... you always bought the scraps, unwanted youths, and these have the same prices because nobody is fighting for them. And with training changes and 50% better general training it's actually much easier to train decent players and make BETTER money than before.

I give you that point. New users just compete for scraps players and unwanted youth that have no good future.


So yeah, current situation favours new teams and it was confirmed by teams that joined 1-2 years ago and played the game before... you can reach decent level much, much faster.

You are right.

With the crappy amount of money you get early game, this is not a priority. The only priority you have is: Get a trainer with 2 unearthly skills, and try to buy some crappy players who can make some profit. You don't touch your stadium until you have some extra money from your sells.

of course it's not the priority in Day 1

but that's the whole point of what I wrote

you get to the point with need and possibility for stadium, better players, better coaches much faster than before

and since you agree that at the beginning "new users compete for scraps" the negative aspect of inflation and higher prices doesn't affect them...

Sokker needs some comunism :D

I mean....if there are teams (I don't care divisions countries or performance) making 6.6m€ or more free doing absolutely nothing....

Clearly the game is/was broken. And there is nothing else to discuss here. DEVS admitted it.

Top teams in most cases have been overly benefitted by recent changes. It's just that there is not really a medium point.

But it's a shit to accept that lower teams can't have that performance and have to rely solely on training players. The game is cruel, without money there really isn't much to do in terms of competitiveness. So there is only one way to go, buying and selling players.

And by the way, the logic of this market is very very very stupid.
Teams are paying more money for younger players than others who are clearly better and just some years older. Can someone explain why this silly behaviour? Why would I pay more for players that have LESS weeks to develop??

And things like this, plus so few new young players are making me at least consider either leaving the game sometime or simply go to lowest division and train minis without headaches or shits
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Why would I pay more for players that have LESS weeks to develop??

Because those players are the top of their generation. And in time they will be the best players in sokker.

Well must be a strange way then to manage a team... I will pay more now for the future Kane than for the current Haaland (still very young and better than the other) that's very very long term thinking

To each their own but I'm unable to understand that.
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I see it like kind of salary cap for teams. Its not so bad! Now clubs need to act even more financially responsible and not pile up expensive players on all possible positions in team or build even 2 strong Teams like I did!

(I'm joking :)

Inflation is good for newcomers to buy relative good players for few bucks but otherwise they can't make a proper profit from it. Or even lose the money after 2 seasons of training: crap talent + short season + friendly match barely affect training + crap trainer and Cos + higher wages.
And TL ist overloaded with many crap players. To buy better player, there is always rich(er) competitor. It's really hard to stay focused over 2 Saisons - 6 Months we are talking about!

Actually, I play for fun, and it should stay so. I don't understand why so many negative posts... Changes are good. We all need to adapt and overcome. It won't be undone anyway.

Let's hope the ''adaptation'' won't be you playing this game alone then soon :-))

All current and past problems coming from less active users. That was and will always be problem. Promotion of Sokker is broken, and we have there almost 30 Nations with 1-10 active Users. With more competitions in Leagues, nobody would complain about financials. I don't know how it is on another online manager games, but probably is the same. Stagnation.
We have failed as Sokker society to bring more people to make it more interesting and competitive. We don't need to compare with Poland, they have more active users as next 5 biggest countries together.

I miss good old times when I trained 20players on pace and everythursday there was a green fest. Nowadays I have only 1-2pops per week :(

i have two green this week. next week %90 no green ;(

maybe it's something with your training

I had 8 pops today + 2 stamina pops

every week it's more than 2 pops...

btw. why do you need so many u22 players?

this is the generation I want to train to win the first league. I have no other ambitions in the game anymore, so no point in changing anything.

I'm just asking why do you have over twenty 17-22yo players since you can only train 10, seems like wasting players that others could have fun with