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It is ok, that it doesnt show how true talented junior is. So it is not worse than it is now - without any info.
it actually IS worse because people will think that it shows the actual level the player will reach - as this thread already shown
another problem is that max talent is 3.0-3.2, so some players might end up much better than this "feature" will show, but users might delete them based on 4.0 talent calculation
not a good idea, doesn't bring anything useful, but will bring confusion
it actually IS worse because people will think that it shows the actual level the player will reach - as this thread already shown
another problem is that max talent is 3.0-3.2, so some players might end up much better than this "feature" will show, but users might delete them based on 4.0 talent calculation
not a good idea, doesn't bring anything useful, but will bring confusion
They just have to add short info:
* potential is calculated based on constant 4,0 talent, junior can have better or worse.
* potential is calculated based on constant 4,0 talent, junior can have better or worse.
No, they need to step away from this idea.
It's like players on the transfer market, showing approx skills, so f.e.
Jannick Dupain, age: 18
club: Racing Roeland, country: België
value : 156 750 €
wage: 1 175 €
excellent [10] form
formidable [11] tactical discipline
height: 176 cm, weight: 64 kg, BMI: 20.66
unsatisfactory [2] stamina hopeless [1] keeper
excellent [10] pace solid [8] defender
adequate [6] technique solid [8] playmaker
good [7] passing solid [8] striker
is shown on TL, but his actual skills could all be +- 4 skills different.
So he could be
weak stamina tragic keeper
brilliant pace weak defender
weak technique excellent playmaker
very good passing adequate striker
or
hopeless stamina weak keeper
adequate pace average defender
weak technique average playmaker
adequate passing average striker
It doesn't make any sence!
It's like players on the transfer market, showing approx skills, so f.e.
Jannick Dupain, age: 18
club: Racing Roeland, country: België
value : 156 750 €
wage: 1 175 €
excellent [10] form
formidable [11] tactical discipline
height: 176 cm, weight: 64 kg, BMI: 20.66
unsatisfactory [2] stamina hopeless [1] keeper
excellent [10] pace solid [8] defender
adequate [6] technique solid [8] playmaker
good [7] passing solid [8] striker
is shown on TL, but his actual skills could all be +- 4 skills different.
So he could be
weak stamina tragic keeper
brilliant pace weak defender
weak technique excellent playmaker
very good passing adequate striker
or
hopeless stamina weak keeper
adequate pace average defender
weak technique average playmaker
adequate passing average striker
It doesn't make any sence!
+1.
It will be advanced/formation training effectiveness all over again as users who dont read forums will treat it as real talent.
It will be advanced/formation training effectiveness all over again as users who dont read forums will treat it as real talent.
Yup... they should give the exact pull skill or remove the potential exit skill. Will only make a confusion this way
It's fine. It's better than nothing for many users. It couldn't be more confusing than now.
Off course it's very limited. Exit level should be compare to exit age.
Juniors at 20y+ out are useless, whatever a level out or talent we can predict zero potential at 100%. Easy.
If devs should fix just one thing, it's to set a max age entry to 17. At least, It will limit the number of useless juniors that we receive every week (if we receive any). Again, it would be better than nothing, than now, and for years :-)
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Off course it's very limited. Exit level should be compare to exit age.
Juniors at 20y+ out are useless, whatever a level out or talent we can predict zero potential at 100%. Easy.
If devs should fix just one thing, it's to set a max age entry to 17. At least, It will limit the number of useless juniors that we receive every week (if we receive any). Again, it would be better than nothing, than now, and for years :-)
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f devs should fix just one thing, it's to set a max age entry to 17.
This is necessary BECAUSE of a recent change the devs made! The shorter seasons!
You just said it yourself... it couldn't be more confusing than now. So what good is there? Nothing!
Imo, I think it IS better if youth players no longer have general skills. Only age.
But their performance on the pitch should be highlighted with statistics and leveling description
f.e....
Time played: 90 minutes
Position: ATT
Average rating: 26.4
distance moved on the pitch: 7324 metres
attemps on goal: 6
passes: 3
interceptions: 0
Coach remarks:
- Decent / poor stamina
- slow / fast
- technical / clumsy
- clinical striker / poor striker
- Hot prospect / average player
- set piece specialist
- dribbler / playmaker / team player
Coach prediction, based on all minutes so far:
GK: unknown
DEF: poor
MID: decent
ATT: best position
An estimation curve in which you never know how accurate it is is completely useless! I rather see things like this, so you can figure out which predictions and remarks give which results, when they come out of the school! This way, if you are a bit active around your team, you can learn how good / poor a junior is / might be over time, based on your youth coach's remarks and predictions and your experience through scouting.
This is necessary BECAUSE of a recent change the devs made! The shorter seasons!
You just said it yourself... it couldn't be more confusing than now. So what good is there? Nothing!
Imo, I think it IS better if youth players no longer have general skills. Only age.
But their performance on the pitch should be highlighted with statistics and leveling description
f.e....
Time played: 90 minutes
Position: ATT
Average rating: 26.4
distance moved on the pitch: 7324 metres
attemps on goal: 6
passes: 3
interceptions: 0
Coach remarks:
- Decent / poor stamina
- slow / fast
- technical / clumsy
- clinical striker / poor striker
- Hot prospect / average player
- set piece specialist
- dribbler / playmaker / team player
Coach prediction, based on all minutes so far:
GK: unknown
DEF: poor
MID: decent
ATT: best position
An estimation curve in which you never know how accurate it is is completely useless! I rather see things like this, so you can figure out which predictions and remarks give which results, when they come out of the school! This way, if you are a bit active around your team, you can learn how good / poor a junior is / might be over time, based on your youth coach's remarks and predictions and your experience through scouting.
Oh..it is you again
P.S. your defender sucks
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P.S. your defender sucks
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Just watch your junior games and skills could be predictable at some points. But i know, it’s boring to watch junior game :-p
Really, skills during school it doesn’t matter in the end, most of juniors are useless so we don’t care about their skills or distribution of skills, and for the few good potential it doesn’t matter too : we just keep them because it’s rare, and we pray.
Really, skills during school it doesn’t matter in the end, most of juniors are useless so we don’t care about their skills or distribution of skills, and for the few good potential it doesn’t matter too : we just keep them because it’s rare, and we pray.
A player who comes to school at the beginning of the season at the age of 18, is ready in the middle of 19. Who needs him at the age of 19? Currently, the situation of the youth school is: it is excrement
The age of admission to school should be reduced!
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The age of admission to school should be reduced!
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Really, skills during school it doesn’t matter in the end
You can say... the youth doesn't matter too, since 99% won't be usefull for you.
I only mean that the current system is confusing / boring / too random / too much fluctuation in estimations / not realistic / without meaning or purpose in general.
So I proposed that to spice things up! To give it more purpose.. And because I hate estimations if you will never know how accurate they are / will be.
If you take an example of real life...
Say, you are a sales manager and you sell funds at a banc
And people come to you to ask about a certain product. You think they can relate to you saying the saving profit might be 10 euro's or 100 euro's or 1000 euro's, but you cannot be certain of it, until they've signed the purchase contract. And on top of that, they have to pay your wage, since you ''work'' for them...
You can say... the youth doesn't matter too, since 99% won't be usefull for you.
I only mean that the current system is confusing / boring / too random / too much fluctuation in estimations / not realistic / without meaning or purpose in general.
So I proposed that to spice things up! To give it more purpose.. And because I hate estimations if you will never know how accurate they are / will be.
If you take an example of real life...
Say, you are a sales manager and you sell funds at a banc
And people come to you to ask about a certain product. You think they can relate to you saying the saving profit might be 10 euro's or 100 euro's or 1000 euro's, but you cannot be certain of it, until they've signed the purchase contract. And on top of that, they have to pay your wage, since you ''work'' for them...
Well you didn't catch my point.
All I was pointing out is that if a general starting level is too low and an exit age too late (19y+) (2 things very 'predictable') we don't need to understand skills of worthless juniors.
You can suggest spicing it up a bit, it won't change the dish, which is already undigestible.
We just need much more probabilities of better junior's entries, first.
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All I was pointing out is that if a general starting level is too low and an exit age too late (19y+) (2 things very 'predictable') we don't need to understand skills of worthless juniors.
You can suggest spicing it up a bit, it won't change the dish, which is already undigestible.
We just need much more probabilities of better junior's entries, first.
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I've answered that point in the very first reply text :-p
The devs created it themselves by shorthening the seasons.
The devs created it themselves by shorthening the seasons.
i know you answered, but it's a little useless to talk about 'new' features when a simple "feature" like reducing junior s age entry is not even considered by devs :-)
I create a topic about that and the only answer by the devs was : "wait for our facilities features." Not only we have to wait years, but basically none of this 'facilities' will fix anything.
I create a topic about that and the only answer by the devs was : "wait for our facilities features." Not only we have to wait years, but basically none of this 'facilities' will fix anything.