Asunto: Bargain / Robbed topic 2.0

but crazy how price have strikers... mid training is so difficult and price is so lower... If i train him like strieker could be 3x18 and price 16-18 mil....
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Yes, but you could also train only 6 guys instead of 10 for half the time though. And pass/pm trains considerably faster that striking.

Exactly.
And next to that with a mid you can always use a mid order for training.
Training mids is so much easier.
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Training mids is so much easier.

I strongly disagree!
The only bigger advantage you have with training mids is that you don't need to play with 3 strikers, since that is mostly only benificial against clearly weaker teams...
So the benefit is more tactical within matches...

But for training, you need to improve 5 skills, where strikers only need 3 skills.
And of those 5 skills, 2 are the same... namely technique and pace.
Yes, PM and passing trains slightly faster, but it also is extra!
Next to pace, tech and def, both PM and passing are a necessity, where as for strikers, it's bonus.

I agree that it is harder for mids to reach top level, as they need 5 skills.
But from profit standpoint - you can train more guys to profit from. And you need to buy less players to fill out the rest of the roster who doesnt get training and only lose value over time so it is debatable whether striker training is more profitable just because certain player could be sold for more if trained in striking during the same time.

I trained strikers 10-12season... it is better training for profit. Good 18y striker cost 4-6 mil... but good 18y mid 7-10 mil e....

But for better play in matches is the best mid trainink. i hate training tech for striker with mid order... It was crazy.

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and withou pass, pm, or def is price mids too low. If we want good money must train top wing, or off mid, or complet mid trainink with def 14+.... So for 3x17 striker do not need so quality trainees like mid.

how many is 3x17 striker... but 5x17 mid????

trainink striker is difficult but only for play in matches... but trainik is easy... only 3 skills.

If train smart, buy 18y strikers....i bought 12-14 strikers.... Train pace 2 seasons to 15-17.... choise the best 10-11 traines, other sold and had good profit... next 1,5-2 seasons trained tech.... If end tech, sold again 4-5 striker and stay in my team the best 6 strikers...

1 seson trained striker. after season 3 sold and 3 train... Buy again 3x 18 y att and train next season 6x striker... 3 old and 3 young...

mid must train still something different and must have similar players.

I had world class mids and strikers both, and I can say that top level U21 mids are worth much more than strikers. You can see many 18yr +20M midfielders, but I dont remember any young striker going for such money

True...but I don't see that many 20M+ mids as I see 15M strikers...
The 20M+...it's like 2 to 5 for each generation...
Where top strikers...there are hundreds...

20mil + for mid, is mid wordclass... so good mid coming 1-2 time per regular years and everybody want him..Only few mid can to be 5x17, very low % is 5x16+-. Like i said, young mid are expensive vs striker, and final price 25-28 y is lower like striker...

i say so... buy 6x 18y strikers...top strikers 18y coast so 7-10 mil... final price like 26-27 y 3x17 is 15-20 mil

but 18y mid with potential 5x16-17 cost 10-20 mil...... and sell like 26-28 y for similar money....

top mid see in TL 2-5 per season... but 3x17 strikers? every weekend....
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my friend bought this striker for 4 mil e yesterday. great striker and great price.....He will sure 3x17....


úbohá 3 kondícia tragický brankár
veľmi dobrá 9 rýchlosť veľmi dobrý 9 obranca
solídna 8 technika zúfalý 1 tvorca hry
dobré 7 prihrávanie excelentný 10 útočník

if he will look so:

úbohá 3 kondícia tragický brankár
veľmi dobrá 9 rýchlosť veľmi dobrý 9 obranca
solídna 8 technika excelentný 10 tvorca hry
dobré 7 prihrávanie zufaly 1 útočník


his price is 10-15 mil for sure and like 27-28y sell him for similar money.
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The problem with high end mids and profit, is if you buy too expensive..... yes many mid talents are overpaid, that is the issue..

And without knowing Mellos start skills, that might seem the problem

i did not buy him for profit but for quality. Is really problem buy top mids for training in short time. When i had time wait for good price, but right now buy what i want and need.

mello 18y

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I meant that mids are easier to train because of tactical issues with atts.

Of course atts are more profitable.
You can buy them cheaper and have 3 main skills only.
But still you can train less atts against mids.

Best way in my opinion is what Jezo told us.
First you train very young atts at pace, than you train the most talented players at tech and than 6 players at striker.
I worked this way for ages.
I am trying something New now, but I am not happy with it untill now.
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yes but soon coming new age and train like we want. so i do not must sell talented striker, gk, def from my youth. Tax is only 10 players for pace and it will be problem in future.