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That's not a surprise, just as you many people make this same mistake. Darwin has nothing to do with how life started, it's about the evolution of living organisms. Besides, Darwin wrote one of the first more accurate books about it, but with enough mistakes in it because he was the first. But that's how science works, verifying and/or correcting previous findings with new studies. Not when some question becomes to difficult: I don't know, it must be magic from god.
But it looks like you aren't asking questions anymore, you just blindly believe what others tell you about your god and your religion. I wonder if you even have read the biblem yourself. Because when I read your posts, it reminds me of things written in the bible, for example about cast the first stone (John 8:7) and sins (just 1 of many examples, Revelation 21:8). Just a final quote about judging people as a 'good' christian: James 4:12
I'm glad I don't believe I have everything to lose when I die, just imagine yourself burning in hell for eternity :P
That's not a surprise, just as you many people make this same mistake. Darwin has nothing to do with how life started, it's about the evolution of living organisms. Besides, Darwin wrote one of the first more accurate books about it, but with enough mistakes in it because he was the first. But that's how science works, verifying and/or correcting previous findings with new studies. Not when some question becomes to difficult: I don't know, it must be magic from god.
But it looks like you aren't asking questions anymore, you just blindly believe what others tell you about your god and your religion. I wonder if you even have read the biblem yourself. Because when I read your posts, it reminds me of things written in the bible, for example about cast the first stone (John 8:7) and sins (just 1 of many examples, Revelation 21:8). Just a final quote about judging people as a 'good' christian: James 4:12
I'm glad I don't believe I have everything to lose when I die, just imagine yourself burning in hell for eternity :P
to believe in darwin you disobey God laws, this is the purpose darwin looking for, he is the beast ( in my opinion ) your behavior is diabolic for all your life just believe in darwin..if darwin and hitler ( two prophets in their country ) are not the 2 beast from revelation then who are ? the only answer is me, i am..and your god is a man who i despite
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You don't read posts of others, do you?
I make it easier for you, 'good' christian: http://biblehub.com/james/4-12.htm
Again, I don't believe in a god.
2 beast from revelation? I can name many terrible people who committed mass murder, see for example this list: Which dictator killed the most?
And to put Hitler and Darwin on the same level shows a lose screw, but keep thinking that way.
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I make it easier for you, 'good' christian: http://biblehub.com/james/4-12.htm
Again, I don't believe in a god.
2 beast from revelation? I can name many terrible people who committed mass murder, see for example this list: Which dictator killed the most?
And to put Hitler and Darwin on the same level shows a lose screw, but keep thinking that way.
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the ideas are more dangerous than crimes, a dictator don't kill people, people killed people
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Yeh, I think god is terrified by Darwin's ideas and he really needs people like you to help him, the god Almighty who created all around us :P
you are right, God tell me not involve, but i am stupid
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i read bible, i try to be a good person to be troll on sokker ? why to do that ? no, i want that you have some questions
you are right, God tell me not involve, but i am stupid
Note to myself: 'don't say it, don't say it .... that's way too easy' :/
Well, I think it's best to end this 'discussion' with those final words :)
Note to myself: 'don't say it, don't say it .... that's way too easy' :/
Well, I think it's best to end this 'discussion' with those final words :)
in time when i was an atheist an old man said to me , you'll see
you are constrained to believe in darwin if you do not believe in God, you worship the beast
@stan76
"the ideas are more dangerous than crimes, a dictaror don't kill people, people killed people"
...lol, yeah.. they only order the deaths, then they order the deaths of the murderers, so yeah... their hands are "clean"... no one is responsible, wonderful: idiocy.
"Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns; why should we let them have ideas?" - Josef Stalin
"If for the sake of Communism it is necessary for us to destroy 9/10ths of the people, we must not hesitate." - Vladimir Lenin
...good luck with this type of evil nonsense...
Also, I honestly think that "god" talk should go in this Religious ? thread, and here we should have more military potential related discussion or reasons for a potential "World war" -hence the topic of this thread.
I find it slightly annoying that the mainstream western media only write vaguely about the "peace minsk treaty II" (which is broken everyday) while not showing the reality of the larger picture and possible threats. Also, NATO reaction to Putin's blatant by now "strategy" of disruption, has been so weak (few temporary F-16?!? seriously?), and only now (over a year later after crimea) "the west" seems to be waking up... slowly, too slowly, which also paradoxically only speeds up and pseudo-justifies (by propaganda within) the militarisation of Putin's Russia (mainly financially on a larger and larger scale), and China also and their almost satellite (no dis) states like Belarus or N.Korea. which seems to be faster that NATO countries, in my opinion.
As for now, we (within the EU/"NATO") or more precisely for me: Poland has not much to worry about, yet... but with time (within few years) and probable re-escalation in Ukraine, I honestly think our (and EU) defensive capabilities are near to pathetic (again, no dis to anyone) currently, especially when you look at the facts: like russian "Zapad 2013" ("anti-terrorist" =/= invasion) training, and the last weeks 13to16-04-2015 Belarusian and Russian paratrooper landing training in Belarus in a army base 2km away from the Polish border, with a 1oo km distance walk/push by the russian troops. That is clearly not "anti-terrorism training" if you ask me. Currently there is no threat, but its a pity that the media especially in western Europe are as populistic, as they are, not showing the slightly more unsettling reality, also playing up to slight anti-Polish bias, in the sence of "rusofobia" (which russia propagates) and on the other hand pro peace loving Lukashenko and his 'Minsk treaties' initiative where the first one failed, and the current treaty is broken constantly, simply we don't see the whole picture, media is just feeding often false stereotypes, like in the Polish-Belarus case, bending history to possible "use", later.
for example this nonsense:
a "mixed truth" map, in google: under "Polish-Belarus border" "before 1945" probably made for the russian propaganda, which is very misleading, as it implies that this was the "original" border between Poland and Belarus, which it most definitely was not, as it was drawn up by Stalin and Hitler before their invasion in 1939 on a map, the "molotov line". (which ended up like that, the so called "Polish-Belarussian SFR border during war") ..in fact it has little to do with Polish-Belarussian relations...
The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact of August 1939 provided for the partition of the Second Polish Republic between the USSR and Nazi Germany. Following the corresponding invasions, a new border was drawn up, though based on the Curzon Line, deviated west of it in several regions. Most notably, was the Belastok Voblast, that was added to the Byelorussian Soviet Socialist Republic, although most of the region was populated by Poles. Adding insult to injury, Belarus was not a nation state then, only a region of Soviet Russia, at the time of all those border changes made by the nazi's and soviet forces in occupied Poland, so it is a bit more misleading in the current borders context, and tints the true relations between Poles and Belarussians, to the Soviet mentality, under Lukashenko's near totalitarism (that includes the army, along woth the russia-belarus pact). :-]
Belarus: 1938:
Nazi-Soviet pact 1939, later WW II begun, occupation of Poland begun and...
1940-1945 Belarus.
And current reality, of the Polish-Belarusian border: :-] EU and "Union State"(Russia,Belarus) border.
And a possible reason for "expanding Belarus to the pre-45 borders!! that the facists EU/Poles (whoever) took!!!" with kremlin's no/obvious support.
PS: important note, its my opinion on the "Lukashenko regime" politics and propaganda in Belarus, not the whole Belarus, and not the actual relationship between Poles and Belarussians, which historically was good.
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"the ideas are more dangerous than crimes, a dictaror don't kill people, people killed people"
...lol, yeah.. they only order the deaths, then they order the deaths of the murderers, so yeah... their hands are "clean"... no one is responsible, wonderful: idiocy.
"Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns; why should we let them have ideas?" - Josef Stalin
"If for the sake of Communism it is necessary for us to destroy 9/10ths of the people, we must not hesitate." - Vladimir Lenin
...good luck with this type of evil nonsense...
Also, I honestly think that "god" talk should go in this Religious ? thread, and here we should have more military potential related discussion or reasons for a potential "World war" -hence the topic of this thread.
I find it slightly annoying that the mainstream western media only write vaguely about the "peace minsk treaty II" (which is broken everyday) while not showing the reality of the larger picture and possible threats. Also, NATO reaction to Putin's blatant by now "strategy" of disruption, has been so weak (few temporary F-16?!? seriously?), and only now (over a year later after crimea) "the west" seems to be waking up... slowly, too slowly, which also paradoxically only speeds up and pseudo-justifies (by propaganda within) the militarisation of Putin's Russia (mainly financially on a larger and larger scale), and China also and their almost satellite (no dis) states like Belarus or N.Korea. which seems to be faster that NATO countries, in my opinion.
As for now, we (within the EU/"NATO") or more precisely for me: Poland has not much to worry about, yet... but with time (within few years) and probable re-escalation in Ukraine, I honestly think our (and EU) defensive capabilities are near to pathetic (again, no dis to anyone) currently, especially when you look at the facts: like russian "Zapad 2013" ("anti-terrorist" =/= invasion) training, and the last weeks 13to16-04-2015 Belarusian and Russian paratrooper landing training in Belarus in a army base 2km away from the Polish border, with a 1oo km distance walk/push by the russian troops. That is clearly not "anti-terrorism training" if you ask me. Currently there is no threat, but its a pity that the media especially in western Europe are as populistic, as they are, not showing the slightly more unsettling reality, also playing up to slight anti-Polish bias, in the sence of "rusofobia" (which russia propagates) and on the other hand pro peace loving Lukashenko and his 'Minsk treaties' initiative where the first one failed, and the current treaty is broken constantly, simply we don't see the whole picture, media is just feeding often false stereotypes, like in the Polish-Belarus case, bending history to possible "use", later.
for example this nonsense:
a "mixed truth" map, in google: under "Polish-Belarus border" "before 1945" probably made for the russian propaganda, which is very misleading, as it implies that this was the "original" border between Poland and Belarus, which it most definitely was not, as it was drawn up by Stalin and Hitler before their invasion in 1939 on a map, the "molotov line". (which ended up like that, the so called "Polish-Belarussian SFR border during war") ..in fact it has little to do with Polish-Belarussian relations...
The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact of August 1939 provided for the partition of the Second Polish Republic between the USSR and Nazi Germany. Following the corresponding invasions, a new border was drawn up, though based on the Curzon Line, deviated west of it in several regions. Most notably, was the Belastok Voblast, that was added to the Byelorussian Soviet Socialist Republic, although most of the region was populated by Poles. Adding insult to injury, Belarus was not a nation state then, only a region of Soviet Russia, at the time of all those border changes made by the nazi's and soviet forces in occupied Poland, so it is a bit more misleading in the current borders context, and tints the true relations between Poles and Belarussians, to the Soviet mentality, under Lukashenko's near totalitarism (that includes the army, along woth the russia-belarus pact). :-]
Belarus: 1938:
Nazi-Soviet pact 1939, later WW II begun, occupation of Poland begun and...
1940-1945 Belarus.
And current reality, of the Polish-Belarusian border: :-] EU and "Union State"(Russia,Belarus) border.
And a possible reason for "expanding Belarus to the pre-45 borders!! that the facists EU/Poles (whoever) took!!!" with kremlin's no/obvious support.
PS: important note, its my opinion on the "Lukashenko regime" politics and propaganda in Belarus, not the whole Belarus, and not the actual relationship between Poles and Belarussians, which historically was good.
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i read bible, i try to be a good person to be troll on sokker?
And you still believe in a book who needs to be interpreted in some parts and some other need to be taken literally?
I can't get it.
And you still believe in a book who needs to be interpreted in some parts and some other need to be taken literally?
I can't get it.
it's bible or darwin.. other gods from hinduism or other religions don't have any substance..so if you want or don't it's Jesus or darwin...life is 100% God 's will is not natural selection...in 1997 i had a dispute with a lady from a radio station, she said , ernesto hoost is god. i cursed ernesto hoost then and i paid a little bit later..i understand why ernesto hoost was god but now i say he is not longer god even for deranged mind..men can be gods for a while but finally they lose..i believe that Jesus can't lose, God is 100% real in my opinion but i don't know what he want, bible have some clues
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