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Everything fine here, bit boring being at home this much, but many have that problem I quess.
And you?
Everything fine here, bit boring being at home this much, but many have that problem I quess.
And you?
Isn't qaurantine over in the Nederlands?
Got a call regarding new job. They want a Skype interview tomorrow or friday. Guess I'm not that mentally disabled after all. Fingers crossed.
Got a call regarding new job. They want a Skype interview tomorrow or friday. Guess I'm not that mentally disabled after all. Fingers crossed.
Congrats! Good news
And yes, and no. We didn't had a real qaurantine. But everyone with a right mind stayed at home, only the crazies and tin foil headers thought/think it is all a HOAX.
But from this week more and more will open. After couple of weeks the next things, and then the next things, etc, if everything goes well.
But because the situation isn't actually any different as 6 weeks ago (except there are less sick people at the moment), I'm not going to live that much different. There is no vaccin, no medicine, still sick people and just read a news article what damage the disease leaves behind, life long different kinds of lung damage (for example Corona Obstructive Lung Disease (COLD)), blood clots in blood vessels, possible brain damage and more. So I will stay extra careful. Boring but save :)
And yes, and no. We didn't had a real qaurantine. But everyone with a right mind stayed at home, only the crazies and tin foil headers thought/think it is all a HOAX.
But from this week more and more will open. After couple of weeks the next things, and then the next things, etc, if everything goes well.
But because the situation isn't actually any different as 6 weeks ago (except there are less sick people at the moment), I'm not going to live that much different. There is no vaccin, no medicine, still sick people and just read a news article what damage the disease leaves behind, life long different kinds of lung damage (for example Corona Obstructive Lung Disease (COLD)), blood clots in blood vessels, possible brain damage and more. So I will stay extra careful. Boring but save :)
Thanks for the update. Here in Romania they never spoke about life long damages, when I open TV I see only stupid news, as always.
Apparently more organs are attacked by corona virus.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/18/health/kidney-dialysis-coronavirus.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/18/health/kidney-dialysis-coronavirus.html
And here is more info of the damage.
The emerging long-term complications of Covid-19, explained
....But doctors say the novel coronavirus can attach to human cells in many parts of the body and penetrate many major organs, including the heart, kidneys, brain, and even blood vessels.
https://www.vox.com/2020/5/8/21251899/coronavirus-long-term-effects-symptoms
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The emerging long-term complications of Covid-19, explained
....But doctors say the novel coronavirus can attach to human cells in many parts of the body and penetrate many major organs, including the heart, kidneys, brain, and even blood vessels.
https://www.vox.com/2020/5/8/21251899/coronavirus-long-term-effects-symptoms
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This has to stop. Guys please share this article on your facebook or on social medias. People must to know. Are we comming back to totality ?
Slovakia faces frustration over quarantine centres as it eases lockdown
There is more issues :
- You are healtly (you got 48hours old negative test from Austria, Czech republic, Hungary for example), and also you are comming into quarantine, if you cross borders. Police is forcing you to sign an agree on border and then you are transported into quarantine center. You cannot choose where you want to be. Ussualy it is old state facility. If they are full, then you can go into the shop. Oh yes, living there is almost for free, but you are forced to pay 13€ for disgusting food per day into.
- Does no matters if you are sick on heart, astma, kidneys, glykemia, etc ... And main issue is, there is no medical help for you (just in case). Only volunters and police patrol. After 21:30 they are locking all houses, like you were prisoner.
- In this centers they are mixing people. Possitive + negative .... you never know who will be accomodatet with you on room. I´ve read about cases they mix 55y old man with 19y old woman (they was strangers)
- This kind of quarantine is against human rights. You are not going there from your free will.
- There was same cases when police officiers was screaming and forcing old laydies (70-80y), who´s were comming back from funheral.
- People working abroad, who got 1w/2w/1month rotation are staying scared behind borders. They dont wanna pass borders because of fear. They didnt saw they families for months, they got sick parrents and they can´t wisit them
and the best on the end .... after 5-8 days they test you ... if you are negative, you have to travel to your home and finish your 14-days quarantine ... ridiculous :-)
ps: sorry for my english, I´m not a native speaker
ps2: Here is a group of people who are, or was in state quarantine, look at the photos, where they lived
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Slovakia faces frustration over quarantine centres as it eases lockdown
There is more issues :
- You are healtly (you got 48hours old negative test from Austria, Czech republic, Hungary for example), and also you are comming into quarantine, if you cross borders. Police is forcing you to sign an agree on border and then you are transported into quarantine center. You cannot choose where you want to be. Ussualy it is old state facility. If they are full, then you can go into the shop. Oh yes, living there is almost for free, but you are forced to pay 13€ for disgusting food per day into.
- Does no matters if you are sick on heart, astma, kidneys, glykemia, etc ... And main issue is, there is no medical help for you (just in case). Only volunters and police patrol. After 21:30 they are locking all houses, like you were prisoner.
- In this centers they are mixing people. Possitive + negative .... you never know who will be accomodatet with you on room. I´ve read about cases they mix 55y old man with 19y old woman (they was strangers)
- This kind of quarantine is against human rights. You are not going there from your free will.
- There was same cases when police officiers was screaming and forcing old laydies (70-80y), who´s were comming back from funheral.
- People working abroad, who got 1w/2w/1month rotation are staying scared behind borders. They dont wanna pass borders because of fear. They didnt saw they families for months, they got sick parrents and they can´t wisit them
and the best on the end .... after 5-8 days they test you ... if you are negative, you have to travel to your home and finish your 14-days quarantine ... ridiculous :-)
ps: sorry for my english, I´m not a native speaker
ps2: Here is a group of people who are, or was in state quarantine, look at the photos, where they lived
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when you think that you are smart, poor people are pariah for you, you are a noble
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal. (Matthew 25:34-46)
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal. (Matthew 25:34-46)
for me the right behavior is to think that you are a servant of the Lord,
Strange way of dealing with people who are or aren't sick. But I have no idea how well healthcare is prepaired for an outbrack of corona. If the alternative is way worse ... No country wants to become Italy-2. But locking people up for no reason (if not sick) is at least questionable.
About the rooms, I expected to see terrible pictures of brokendown houses with awfull dirty rooms, but the rooms look okay. The only mess is made by people in that room ;P If I book a cheap apartement in Spain for a cheap holiday, it is absolutely worse quality as those rooms ;) The food is not okay for 13 euro a day, if it is like that all days as on the pictures.
EDIT: But when I read this, I wonder how bad it is to lock people up! Not being able to visit elderly ..... OFCOURSE NOT!! Stay away from elderly people!
His criticisms were echoed over social media when enforced quarantine kept many from seeing elderly parents when Slovakia celebrated Mother’s Day on Sunday.
Age of reported people who died for sure by corona (is older data, but already very clear). Blue is man, purple is woman. Idiots who want to visit elderly should be locked up as long as corona is around. Those 'ignorant' (read: brainless) people are a danger to everyone.
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About the rooms, I expected to see terrible pictures of brokendown houses with awfull dirty rooms, but the rooms look okay. The only mess is made by people in that room ;P If I book a cheap apartement in Spain for a cheap holiday, it is absolutely worse quality as those rooms ;) The food is not okay for 13 euro a day, if it is like that all days as on the pictures.
EDIT: But when I read this, I wonder how bad it is to lock people up! Not being able to visit elderly ..... OFCOURSE NOT!! Stay away from elderly people!
His criticisms were echoed over social media when enforced quarantine kept many from seeing elderly parents when Slovakia celebrated Mother’s Day on Sunday.
Age of reported people who died for sure by corona (is older data, but already very clear). Blue is man, purple is woman. Idiots who want to visit elderly should be locked up as long as corona is around. Those 'ignorant' (read: brainless) people are a danger to everyone.
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No country wants to become Italy-2
I'm really curious about what perception you have of italian situation.. I suspect media exaggerated a lot!
Actually italian stats on covid-19 are lead in a very different way from other countries. For example we count as covid victim almost every dead person that is infected (no matter if he's dead for a car accident!). Stats made this way are often useless..
I'm really curious about what perception you have of italian situation.. I suspect media exaggerated a lot!
Actually italian stats on covid-19 are lead in a very different way from other countries. For example we count as covid victim almost every dead person that is infected (no matter if he's dead for a car accident!). Stats made this way are often useless..
Ofcourse, when it's negative news about Italy one will defend it .....
The warning, the famous words from a nurse crying, they have to choose who live and who die because there wasn't enough place on IC's is not true ofcourse. Hospitals not being able to keep up is also a lie ofcourse.
And the number of dead people because of corona is also not true ofcourse. Roads where empty, but all those car accidents made the number of corona dead way higher, yeh right.
It is all some anti-Italian propaganda maybe, for no reason at all?? Retorical question!
The warning, the famous words from a nurse crying, they have to choose who live and who die because there wasn't enough place on IC's is not true ofcourse. Hospitals not being able to keep up is also a lie ofcourse.
And the number of dead people because of corona is also not true ofcourse. Roads where empty, but all those car accidents made the number of corona dead way higher, yeh right.
It is all some anti-Italian propaganda maybe, for no reason at all?? Retorical question!
Ofcourse, when it's negative news about Italy one will defend it .....
The warning, the famous words from a nurse crying, they have to choose who live and who die because there wasn't enough place on IC's is not true ofcourse. Hospitals not being able to keep up is also a lie ofcourse
Why, ERVERY TIME I say something you have to turn it into something else. I said another thing.
Are you able to answer my question without useless arguing?
My question is: what perception you have of italian situation?
It is all some anti-Italian propaganda maybe, for no reason at all?? Retorical question!
no it is only media doing what media do. Selling news, no matter how exact news are, they need to sell you something to consume.
For example in Italy we have right now a strong anti holland propaganda (because of economics and EU).
I'm not buying it... too simple to blame the northern people for our own faults (believing EU would mean solidarity, not loans). Dutch gov did the right thing for the people who they represent.
So I check the news about evil dutch politician (that wants italian to take loans in order to buy colosseum and Pisa Tower for a piece of bread..) and find them bullshits.
I don't think propaganda work different in any other country..
The warning, the famous words from a nurse crying, they have to choose who live and who die because there wasn't enough place on IC's is not true ofcourse. Hospitals not being able to keep up is also a lie ofcourse
Why, ERVERY TIME I say something you have to turn it into something else. I said another thing.
Are you able to answer my question without useless arguing?
My question is: what perception you have of italian situation?
It is all some anti-Italian propaganda maybe, for no reason at all?? Retorical question!
no it is only media doing what media do. Selling news, no matter how exact news are, they need to sell you something to consume.
For example in Italy we have right now a strong anti holland propaganda (because of economics and EU).
I'm not buying it... too simple to blame the northern people for our own faults (believing EU would mean solidarity, not loans). Dutch gov did the right thing for the people who they represent.
So I check the news about evil dutch politician (that wants italian to take loans in order to buy colosseum and Pisa Tower for a piece of bread..) and find them bullshits.
I don't think propaganda work different in any other country..
I don't believe Journalists are going to "lie" about something that will put the entire country in a bad daylight in a time like this...