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the problem is that you end up working 8 or more hours for that 350-400 euro
so you work as we work, but you cry... and... the people can go home, if he is employeed for 4 hours and have to work more and if boss fire him, you have work state agency protecting laws, so you are just weak to say "NO".
you want easy money for your nice life, that is all, so stop crying....

I will send you there several thousand slovak gypsies which will love you for 750€ and your productivity :-DD

I think it works all the same everywhere in the world, where the minimal wage is too high. If it's not too high, employers can just employ you for part time salary and give the rest of your salary "unofficially", so they can avoid taxes.

It's not like Greek people are actually getting loans from Slovakian people. It's mismanagement on a national level and I'm not sure that it's fair to blame the people for this.

On the other side, as long as the Greeks pay the monthly interest, it's actually the Slovakians that are profiting not the other way around. Greece is paying money every month, the other countries gave some money, but the idea is that they'll get it back (which, until now seems to be the case).

The euro countries make a big deal about how much money they borrowed Greece and how grateful the Greeks should be, but the secret is that they just found another way to extract money from them.

and give the rest of your salary "unofficially"


oh no,you only getting paid (if you are getting paid) for that part-time you signed for,no more money :P


rumpil,go to sleep,you have to work tommorow,i need money to party

(which, until now seems to be the case)

by getting more loans to pay the interests actually




(Man,it's a lost cause to try to explain it to an obvious troll like rumpil,you are wasting your time)
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How many days a week is that? 2/3 days a week, 8 hours a day sounds quite alright.

Yes, I agree with you. Making sure that the law is actually followed may be more important right now.

Btw, a friend of my girlfriend couldn't find a job after graduating and currently she's getting payed €300,- a month for doing an "internship". So Greece is not the only country where they know how to be flexible with the rules.

In most countries giving salary "unofficially" is illegal and, I would say, a very big reason why Greece got in trouble in the first place.

Without the EU money Greece would either have to default or find loans with higher interest rates elsewhere. Neither seems to be desirable to me.

That's why it seems that your minimal wage is high indeed. There are enough people to work for just the part-time minimal wage. In Hungary you couldn't do this, it would be very hard to find (capable) people working for the local part-time minimal wage. Then again, Hungarian minimal wage is about 340€ this year. I guess we won't have large masses of Greek economic refugees yet. :)

How many days a week is that? 2/3 days a week, 8 hours a day sounds quite alright.


the part-time jobs?
try like 5-6 days/week :P

that modern capitalistic exploitation shit isn't a just Greece thing,it's all over Europe

you are wrong !
First classic loan for Greece we refused (this is that one where we could get interests). (EU said that we should be ashamed after we refuse it)

Second loan is actually not loan to greeks ,but guarantees to ECB, so it is worse, we dont have any interest! But if greeks leave euro and will stop paying back euro debts, slovakia will had to pay 1,7mld € to ECB cos greeks could not do it. (after devaluation of new greek currency it will be impossible)

We can not pay 1,7mld€, we dont have so huge amount of money, it was big mistake that EU forces us (threaten and then bribe some stupid politics) that they sign it. Our slovak government fall down on this, just one party refuse it (SAS-Sulik), that law did not pass, but after government fall down, EU forced the rest of parties to sign it.

I can see that you used to live from foreing money... I hear a lot about greece culture and I like it, but as I can see that times are far away for long time :-(

enjoy my minimal wage for one day party, you have now celebration day, canceling debts party :-D

In many countries giving salary "unofficially" is illegal and everybody does this, or else you can't compete with those who do that. Forget the rule-following Netherlands, I'm talking about the former socialist block, Balkans, and Western countries with lots of illegal and easily exploitable immigrants. It's not like everybody pays illegally, but there are some industries, where you have to, or you can shut down your enterprise. Building industry is usually notorious about illegal salaries.

go on holiday to greece and she can earn twice there :-D so you can be there on permanent holiday :-DD

ROFL and +1
I guess we won't have large masses of Greek economic refugees yet. :)