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Can you describe what you imagine under emphatism system :) ?
Thats a long story. And for a long run. Hunderts years from now.
Firstly we need to change our monetary system. Economy system. Politics. Go trough something like The Venus Project (simply techno world). And the we could think about emphatism.
Firstly we need to change our monetary system. Economy system. Politics. Go trough something like The Venus Project (simply techno world). And the we could think about emphatism.
Emphatism, hundres years from now... well, I am unable to find about it more than one sentence. Isn´t it something like green anarchism? But it is still forever utopia for me if it doesn´t say what is legal - what everyone must accept - and what is good to do but voluntary so there is no need to make laws for it...
Anarcho-capitalism is politcal philosophy - even according to Wiki.
( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism )
It does matter. You cant compare. You just compare the informations you got from media. And the media is corrupted.
My mom was an administrative accountant and my father was an artist. You should know that artist were disliked in totalitiarism. But you know what? We werent poor. We had everything we wanted. My parents got an loan for living (for a flat), and they didnt have to repay it. Family life was very well supported then. Everyone had to work. Even the gipsies. What they do now? Nothing. Oh right you are from Belgium, so go look in Bruseles, there are our gipsies now :-)))).
Well... We had everything we wanted It is not argument for me that totality of 70´s and 80´s in Czechoslovakia let you to do what you wanted.
You had no liberty at all. If totilitary government decides you are killed. You are just slave of it..
That´s again and again that important question of what you have to/mustn´t and what you can do/not. In totality you must do everyhing government says and you can do that what they let you to do. In anarcho-capitalism you must do nothing else then let other people to live in liberty and take responsibility for your life.
And if you think that "communistic" Czechoslovak economy worked - everything indicates it didn´t. Only free market (with real money - not only papers - in my opinion) can make real values..
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Anarcho-capitalism is politcal philosophy - even according to Wiki.
( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism )
It does matter. You cant compare. You just compare the informations you got from media. And the media is corrupted.
My mom was an administrative accountant and my father was an artist. You should know that artist were disliked in totalitiarism. But you know what? We werent poor. We had everything we wanted. My parents got an loan for living (for a flat), and they didnt have to repay it. Family life was very well supported then. Everyone had to work. Even the gipsies. What they do now? Nothing. Oh right you are from Belgium, so go look in Bruseles, there are our gipsies now :-)))).
Well... We had everything we wanted It is not argument for me that totality of 70´s and 80´s in Czechoslovakia let you to do what you wanted.
You had no liberty at all. If totilitary government decides you are killed. You are just slave of it..
That´s again and again that important question of what you have to/mustn´t and what you can do/not. In totality you must do everyhing government says and you can do that what they let you to do. In anarcho-capitalism you must do nothing else then let other people to live in liberty and take responsibility for your life.
And if you think that "communistic" Czechoslovak economy worked - everything indicates it didn´t. Only free market (with real money - not only papers - in my opinion) can make real values..
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Emphatism, hundres years from now... well, I am unable to find about it more than one sentence.
True. I made that one by myself, but i am sure there was something like it before :-P.
It is better to be forced to not to do bad things, than allowed to do everything.
And you are also in capitalism forced to do so many things. You must be a fool (dont take it offensive please) when you thing you are living in freedom.
And if you think that "communistic" Czechoslovak economy worked - everything indicates it didn´t. Only free market (with real money - not only papers - in my opinion) can make real values..
And capitalistic countries economy works now? ;-)
All are in big depths. Even the biggest capitalistic country USA. Its even worse there than in Greece.
Capitalism will crash one day. Someone predicted it for the year 2020.
True. I made that one by myself, but i am sure there was something like it before :-P.
It is better to be forced to not to do bad things, than allowed to do everything.
And you are also in capitalism forced to do so many things. You must be a fool (dont take it offensive please) when you thing you are living in freedom.
And if you think that "communistic" Czechoslovak economy worked - everything indicates it didn´t. Only free market (with real money - not only papers - in my opinion) can make real values..
And capitalistic countries economy works now? ;-)
All are in big depths. Even the biggest capitalistic country USA. Its even worse there than in Greece.
Capitalism will crash one day. Someone predicted it for the year 2020.
It is better to be forced to not to do bad things, than allowed to do everything.
That's why we have laws ;) They tell you what you can or can't do. Forcing people is a very scary thought ...
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That's why we have laws ;) They tell you what you can or can't do. Forcing people is a very scary thought ...
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It is better to be forced to not to do bad things, than allowed to do everything.
It is better to be free and freely do some mistakes (like not enough supporting poor people in Africa) than to let some valentine say "this is good and this is bad". This is definitely way to Oswiecim. Once again: with liberty you can do everything¨, you can stop doing every mistake you find. Without liberty you can do nothing than what power wants.
And you are also in capitalism forced to do so many things. You must be a fool (dont take it offensive please) when you thing you are living in freedom.
And capitalistic countries economy works now? ;-)
All are in big depths. Even the biggest capitalistic country USA. Its even worse there than in Greece.
Capitalism will crash one day. Someone predicted it for the year 2020.
As i stated before: currently there is no pure capitalism I am talking about. And there are no real money.
Last time ( :) ): pure capitalism doesn´t force you to do anything. It´s all up to your choice. Do you want to eat? You have to find something to eat or buy something from man who produces food. Do you want to help poor people? You have to help them. Etc...
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It is better to be free and freely do some mistakes (like not enough supporting poor people in Africa) than to let some valentine say "this is good and this is bad". This is definitely way to Oswiecim. Once again: with liberty you can do everything¨, you can stop doing every mistake you find. Without liberty you can do nothing than what power wants.
And you are also in capitalism forced to do so many things. You must be a fool (dont take it offensive please) when you thing you are living in freedom.
And capitalistic countries economy works now? ;-)
All are in big depths. Even the biggest capitalistic country USA. Its even worse there than in Greece.
Capitalism will crash one day. Someone predicted it for the year 2020.
As i stated before: currently there is no pure capitalism I am talking about. And there are no real money.
Last time ( :) ): pure capitalism doesn´t force you to do anything. It´s all up to your choice. Do you want to eat? You have to find something to eat or buy something from man who produces food. Do you want to help poor people? You have to help them. Etc...
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That's why we have laws ;) They tell you what you can or can't do. Forcing people is a very scary thought ...
Then there's no difference between capitalism and communism in this matter. Everything that was forced, was forced by laws.
So thank you to help me ending this type of arguement. ;-)
Then there's no difference between capitalism and communism in this matter. Everything that was forced, was forced by laws.
So thank you to help me ending this type of arguement. ;-)
Ok, i see you are talking just about the theory. You like the theoretical pure capitalism. Its ok then.
I dont like this capitalism as it is now. Maybe you too.
I dont like this capitalism as it is now. Maybe you too.
Turning around my words doesn't make you more right ;) I'm not forced to do things, I'm only punished when I do wrong things, but no 1 tells me if I can make mistakes or not ...
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Of course. I´ve been talking from my theoretical position in every post. I understood this topic should be about this from rumpil´s starting post.. .)
I don´t like today´s "capitalism" too. But if this is capitalism, then everything is capitalism. Then Czechoslovak "communism" was just state capitalism and today´s e. g. Czech regime is only less-state capitalism. I am generally supporter of everyone´s liberty and responsibility for his own life. I could write also many lines about why I don´t agree with Rawls or G. A. Cohen etc but I am not sure if I wouldn´t go too deep by this... .)
I don´t like today´s "capitalism" too. But if this is capitalism, then everything is capitalism. Then Czechoslovak "communism" was just state capitalism and today´s e. g. Czech regime is only less-state capitalism. I am generally supporter of everyone´s liberty and responsibility for his own life. I could write also many lines about why I don´t agree with Rawls or G. A. Cohen etc but I am not sure if I wouldn´t go too deep by this... .)