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Ireland plan B: euro exit

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Dear Mr. Troll:

If you really dislike the discussion of general topics in this forum that much, feel free to ignore the Freestyle forum, rather than embarrass yourself by whining about people discussing freestyle topics in the freestyle forum.

Free tip: whenever you feel you don't want to take part in a discussion, well, probably you shouldn't. No need for me to go to Eurovision topic and start to spam everyone about how irrelevant it seems to me in a soccer game.
Time on earth is limited. Better to enjoy it doing what one wants to do than to waste it telling others how little interest one has in what they're doing. Like they would care.

Dear mister real troll,

A tip + insult in 1 post don't really work together.

My tip to you, ignore the freestyle topic yourself if you don't like to read my comments. And when the real trolls stay away the forum is fun and friendly, just look at last few days!

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Time on earth is limited. Better to enjoy it doing what one wants to do than to waste it telling others how little interest one has in what they're doing. Like they would care.

Btw, posting an advice while you ignore that same advice yourself completely at the same time, that is really ironic! No, ironic isn't the right word .... hypocrite, that's it!!

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I posted an article about Bank of England that says that what is theached in almost every university of economics (about money creation process) is partially wrong.

It is an overstatement, although one the author of the article makes himself. While it is true that the money being lent does'n specifically come form any account, the article itself recognizes that it is somehow connected through deposits, and omits one another connection: balance sheet requirements on banks set by regulators effectively link loans to deposits, own capital, etc. Hence, the mechanics of the textbook are not true at the detail level, but once you move to coarse, stylized approximations, both views are indistinguishable.

Then there are the usual mischaracterizations of economist as "believing" in something, but if you want to interact with so-called "heterodox" you need to get used to overlook them :P

Then there are the usual mischaracterizations of economist as "believing" in something, but if you want to interact with so-called "heterodox" you need to get used to overlook them :P

Maybe I didn't understand.. who do you think is an heterodox?

The author of the article you posted (or perhaps he's just a journalist heavily influenced by them :P)


And by "heterodox" I mean self-denominated heterodox, which doesn't need to correspond to what you could call ortho/heterodox from a methodological perspective.

Ok,
btw that article were only the source from where I discovered BoE videos and articles.

link

Farage vs Clegg

I think this video is a great example of what is happening in almost all great countries of Europe in these days.

We have 3 standard positions:
1 the labour (moderate left, socialists or how you prefer to call them) side that shows its european loyalty.
2 moderate right party or a very extremist left parties (Tsipras) that is very close to the left or allied to it, that talks about to refrom EU
3 extreme right (libertarian, nationalists, conservative, etc) that are against it.

After a closer look we'll understand that the first and second position are almost the same.
The problem about economics and labour rights is being for or against EURO. Because all the rest come as a consequence. The fiscal politic come as imposed. the labour rules must be reformed. The pension system must be reducted etc..

We see that it put us on a strange situation, in order to defend workers, rights and welfare we should vote some of the "3" parties (in fact they grow a lot, look at Le Pen in France..)
But in order to gain or defend civil rights we should stop them (they are almost racists or nationalists or against social rights or WAR addicted, or Fascist/Nazist ..)

That's the biggest BETRAY that left side did to their electors in Europe in this 20 years.
It's name is EURO.
they told us a tale about a coin that would have make us richer and more peaceful as continent,
but they lied.
they knowed that this euro construction would never work, as it's asimmetries condemn it to a permanent crisis situation. But still (in order to have something to believe in after the end of real socialism in east europe) they taked the ideology of "more Europe".
They did this to continue to exist, to continue to get power.

The moderate right parties simply says the same things. So we have a false debate between two similar position and the fatct that a gov change color doesn't change anything in reality.
This is killing the real democracy in this continent, it shows how we are "americanizing" our politics (2 sides = no choice).

The populistic extreme right parties are now the only chance a worker has in Europe to have someone that defend his interests...
Now he'll have to vote those extremists, but they are dangerous.. some of thema re stupid, some of them are intelligent (I don't know who to fear most)

Look at France. you have moderate right and moderate left that are the SAME thing, the extreme left that didn't understanded the problem, and extreme right WINS..

That is what euro condemn us to..
to agree with Farage/Le Pen/Salvini/...(fill the space with your country right extremists.)
:|

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the real fun fact is that EURO needs to be supported by funny fail-ideology that mix the authoritarism of Soviet with the more extremistic far libertarian economic theories..
I think their model must be China.
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And yes, it is in Dutch because it doesn't matter if and in which language I post this video in this, hijacked by you, topic.

I don't comment the dutch video's I can't understand.
but the EU commission (read: soviet) video is one of my favourite funny video, I think you just have to post in the right discussion.

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i think you understanded that video doesn't even touch the core of the problems, you didi?
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I think you only look at it from 1 side and are really doing your best not to mention and not to see the benefits of the euro.

But keep posting your biased propaganda, I hope most people will be smarter then that.

benefits?
which benefits?

(fro the "propaganda problem" I think is useful to read different ideas,
my goal is that anyone can make himself some question he will not find in usual media.. and then start a search for understanding soething more.
if you have to fight against a totalitarism, the first thing is to show that what seems an evidence is not so)

benefits?

Yep, that is the answer I expected, very predictable. This is exactly what people do when they support only 1 side almost to the extreme, and this is exactly what I just posted about what you are doing also: post as much of your anti-euro ideas and links that support this idea as you can.