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I understood el pupe post exactly that way - thats its bad make propaganda for public money even when he agrees with its points.
"We will comply with all our election commitments. It is a question of price, reliability and respect for democracy. We will be remembered as the government that kept its word. It is trite that we have the right on our side. The troika wanted from the outset a 6 month extension of the program. They haven't considered that we have the folk factor on our side. We will no longer be ruled by emails. The crisis is not only Greek, but European. The aim is to aim and reach a mutually beneficial solution for everyone. We are not negotiating national and popular sovereignty and the popular mandate of January 25th. We are not entitled to ask for an extension of the memorandum. Europe should never relive the era of the monsters. The hatred between peoples should not be fed. Understanding and solidarity should prevail."
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"Many elements of the German-French offer remain classified, but Hollande has revealed its key point in television France 2. The creation of a demilitarized zone 50-70 km wide , which would separate the Ukrainian army from the rebel forces. The zone would have to stretch, according to the statement by Hollande, along the current front line in Donbas . This proposition in fact would allow the rebel forces to keep territory which they gained since the Minsk ceasefire agreement of September 2014, which they failed to comply to. That agreement was talking about a demilitarized zone only 30 km wide and along "line of the cease-fire" then. Since september the rebels captured - according to various estimates - from 0.5 to 1.5 thousand km sq. of territory.
The now proposed extended buffer zone of 50-70 km would only strengthen their position in the heart of the Donbass."
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what is.was the point of that?!
?
In my brutal and honest opinion, EU with Merkel and Hollande are being played for fools...
...Merkel and Hollande should make room in their diaries for another "minsk ceasefire agreement", when this one gets broken... after the russian rebels or mercenaries had their brake, and their "humanitarian" convoy supplies from russia... ehh..
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"Many elements of the German-French offer remain classified, but Hollande has revealed its key point in television France 2. The creation of a demilitarized zone 50-70 km wide , which would separate the Ukrainian army from the rebel forces. The zone would have to stretch, according to the statement by Hollande, along the current front line in Donbas . This proposition in fact would allow the rebel forces to keep territory which they gained since the Minsk ceasefire agreement of September 2014, which they failed to comply to. That agreement was talking about a demilitarized zone only 30 km wide and along "line of the cease-fire" then. Since september the rebels captured - according to various estimates - from 0.5 to 1.5 thousand km sq. of territory.
The now proposed extended buffer zone of 50-70 km would only strengthen their position in the heart of the Donbass."
:-]
what is.was the point of that?!
?
In my brutal and honest opinion, EU with Merkel and Hollande are being played for fools...
...Merkel and Hollande should make room in their diaries for another "minsk ceasefire agreement", when this one gets broken... after the russian rebels or mercenaries had their brake, and their "humanitarian" convoy supplies from russia... ehh..
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So they would have to demilitarize their capitals? That's never gonna happen. They may say they're going to, but they will never do it.
I understood el pupe post exactly that way - thats its bad make propaganda for public money even when he agrees with its points.
Tnx!
That was my idea.
A party can/must have a propaganda activity. It's its role in the game.
An institution should not.
Tnx!
That was my idea.
A party can/must have a propaganda activity. It's its role in the game.
An institution should not.
I think the only way to get real peace again is to take the weapons of all pro-russian terrorists and force out the Russian soldiers and mercenaries of the whole of Ukraine, incl Crimea. And next a demilitarized zone on the Russian border, not inside Ukraine like that 'peace plan' of Merkel and Hollande. That dumb 'plan' is the same as giving away that territory to Russia.
or to do the opposite and take out the weapons of all the pro EU/US terrorists.. and make the demilitarized zone on the western border..
I can't understand why some terrorist should be better than others.
BTW. I think that at the end of this war of invasion that EU/US did against a russian colony, we are going to have a splitted Ukraine..
or a third World War..
I can't understand why some terrorist should be better than others.
BTW. I think that at the end of this war of invasion that EU/US did against a russian colony, we are going to have a splitted Ukraine..
or a third World War..
Ah, f*** borders and let the aggressor come in whenever they like and let them steal whatever they like with the help of local terrorists. Close your eyes and don't believe in Russianisation ....... just ignore how Russia deals with neighbor countries. But ofcourse it was the EU and US who invaded Crimea and eastern Ukraine, against all agreements to respect Ukraine as sovereign state, also signed by Russia.
Putin is like a Hitler, he still can't deal with the fall of his beloved Soviet reich and is taking back parts by force.
Putin is like a Hitler, he still can't deal with the fall of his beloved Soviet reich and is taking back parts by force.
I did read your post .... blame EU and US, and ignore reality.
This whole "peace" plan shows us again how useless UN are.
Neighbors and the North Pole, beware! :/
'Strange' move for a country which always blamed the US for interfering in national affairs, often fighting with russian friends, oh I mean ruthless dictators ... how could I make such a mistake.
Payback time? Greek PM seeks reparations over Nazi occupation & war-time loan/
Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras, referring to Nazi Germany’s four-year occupation of Greece and a forced war-time loan during World War II that saddled the Greek economy in huge debt, wants Berlin to pay reparations.
Tsipras, leader of the anti-austerity Syriza party, said Athens had a “historical obligation” to claim from Germany billions of euros in reparations for the physical and financial destruction committed during Nazi Germany’s occupation of Greece.
Beyond the historical obligation, he said Greece had "a moral obligation to our people, to history, to all European peoples who fought and gave their blood against Nazism," he said in a keynote address to parliament on Sunday.
The Greek leader’s comments have resonated far beyond Athens as they place the issue of his country’s recent massive bailout at the behest of international creditors in a whole new light.
After Nazi forces took control of Greece in 1941, the stage was set for one of the bloodiest confrontations of World War II as Greek resistance fighters put up a fierce struggle to end the occupation.They were powerless, however, to prevent the Third Reich from extracting an interest-free 476 million Reichsmarks loan from the Greek central bank, which devastated the Greek economy.
A 2012 report by the Bundestag, Germany’s lower house of parliament, estimated the value of the loan at US$8.25 billion. Greece, however, puts the value of the loan at €11 billion, the To Vima newspaper reported in January, citing confidential financial documents.
Tsipras claims Germany owes Greece around €162 billion ($183 billion) - about half the country's debt load, which is estimated at over €315 billion.
The figure is said to cover €108 billion for infrastructure damage wrought by the occupying Nazi forces between 1941 and the end of the war, and €54 billion as compensation for the unpaid loan.
Berlin has vehemently refused to consider the payment of any reparations. "Nearly 70 years after the end of World War II, the question of reparations has lost legitimacy," a German finance ministry spokesman declared recently.
On 25 January 2015, Tsipras led Syriza to a stunning victory, attracting 36 percent of the vote and 149 out of the 300 seats in the parliament. Now, the energetic 40-year-old prime minister aims to make good on his pledge to eliminate unpopular austerity measures demanded by the global financial lenders in return for massive loan bailouts.
At the same time, the new Greek government said it would not accept the latest tranche of the IMF bailout valued at €7 billion.
On May 1, 2010, former Prime Minister George Papandreou announced a fourth round of austerity measures, which included steeper public sector pay cuts, pension reductions and new taxes on corporate profits. These measures prompted a nationwide strike on 5 May, which led to the death of three activists as the demonstrations turned violent.
Understanding that austerity measures cannot resolve Greece’s problems, Syriza hopes to refill government coffers by issuing treasury bills.
"We only have one commitment: to serve the interests of our people, the good of society," Tsipras said, while emphasizing the "irreversible decision" of his government to carry out its campaign promises.
Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras, referring to Nazi Germany’s four-year occupation of Greece and a forced war-time loan during World War II that saddled the Greek economy in huge debt, wants Berlin to pay reparations.
Tsipras, leader of the anti-austerity Syriza party, said Athens had a “historical obligation” to claim from Germany billions of euros in reparations for the physical and financial destruction committed during Nazi Germany’s occupation of Greece.
Beyond the historical obligation, he said Greece had "a moral obligation to our people, to history, to all European peoples who fought and gave their blood against Nazism," he said in a keynote address to parliament on Sunday.
The Greek leader’s comments have resonated far beyond Athens as they place the issue of his country’s recent massive bailout at the behest of international creditors in a whole new light.
After Nazi forces took control of Greece in 1941, the stage was set for one of the bloodiest confrontations of World War II as Greek resistance fighters put up a fierce struggle to end the occupation.They were powerless, however, to prevent the Third Reich from extracting an interest-free 476 million Reichsmarks loan from the Greek central bank, which devastated the Greek economy.
A 2012 report by the Bundestag, Germany’s lower house of parliament, estimated the value of the loan at US$8.25 billion. Greece, however, puts the value of the loan at €11 billion, the To Vima newspaper reported in January, citing confidential financial documents.
Tsipras claims Germany owes Greece around €162 billion ($183 billion) - about half the country's debt load, which is estimated at over €315 billion.
The figure is said to cover €108 billion for infrastructure damage wrought by the occupying Nazi forces between 1941 and the end of the war, and €54 billion as compensation for the unpaid loan.
Berlin has vehemently refused to consider the payment of any reparations. "Nearly 70 years after the end of World War II, the question of reparations has lost legitimacy," a German finance ministry spokesman declared recently.
On 25 January 2015, Tsipras led Syriza to a stunning victory, attracting 36 percent of the vote and 149 out of the 300 seats in the parliament. Now, the energetic 40-year-old prime minister aims to make good on his pledge to eliminate unpopular austerity measures demanded by the global financial lenders in return for massive loan bailouts.
At the same time, the new Greek government said it would not accept the latest tranche of the IMF bailout valued at €7 billion.
On May 1, 2010, former Prime Minister George Papandreou announced a fourth round of austerity measures, which included steeper public sector pay cuts, pension reductions and new taxes on corporate profits. These measures prompted a nationwide strike on 5 May, which led to the death of three activists as the demonstrations turned violent.
Understanding that austerity measures cannot resolve Greece’s problems, Syriza hopes to refill government coffers by issuing treasury bills.
"We only have one commitment: to serve the interests of our people, the good of society," Tsipras said, while emphasizing the "irreversible decision" of his government to carry out its campaign promises.
Grrounnng Mnnaangr Atrommm Bounnndd Etam Graomm Itaromm !
And when you're finished with the deutch, i suggest you go for the italians too, half of the Colliseum should be yours.