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Asunto: [NT] Adivip

2024-06-24 15:01:58
I'm aware of the suspicious turnout - as you may have seen on Norbert's thread - I actually brought it up.
I understand that whoever did this made a bunch of B teams not long after the previous election. I've seen a list.

Whoever did it should be banned. I hope, somehow, the admins are able to determine this. It seems like a gigantic waste of time and energy to me.
2024-06-24 15:54:48
I think it will be easy for admins to determine who voted in the elections.

If someone logged in once or twice and voted, it is very suspicious.
2024-06-25 04:40:57
What a coincidence that it happened first in Portugal, and then happens here again after releme got interested in your NT.
2024-06-25 04:44:59
It is my understanding that when it happened to him the first time, it was a third party coordinating votes against him - not for him.

This said, if they find him guilty, ban him. That simple. Even if it means this team fails for another season under Adivip's "leadership".

I want him gone, but not this way.
2024-06-25 08:40:55
I already knew that if Adivip lost, I would be called a cheater. Ridiculous! The person who was banned during the elections for cheating was Adivip and not me. If you want to investigate something… ok, do it! But don't defame me.
2024-06-25 08:53:26
releme para releme
The suspicious votes could have been against me (the other candidate had 13 votes) or been 50%/50% (there were many votes on both sides), precisely to defame me. Or they may be suspicious, but it may be okay after all. There are several hypotheses, and this defamation makes no sense.
2024-06-25 09:05:39
releme para releme
Anyone who knows me from the Portugal forum knows that every week I criticized the Pole who won the elections with voting fraud. Adivip knows this Polish guy, as he has spoken to him many times. I can also ask: will it be revenge? Adivip was precisely the first to talk about alleged fraud in the elections.
2024-06-25 11:01:08
If this matter can be investigated, it should be investigated. Hypotheses that are not confirmed should not be put forward.
2024-06-25 14:24:21
What are the B teams? It's us?

We are not B teams. I found this game, I found it interesting, and I challenged my group of friends who usually play these types of games, to form a team at the same time (all on different computers). The challenge is "who will be the first champion?" We have a group on Whatsapp, and we exchange ideas there. We decided to hire good coaches to optimize training, we decided to hire young players, and we decided to expand the stadium. Isn't this normal? If we just wanted to manipulate the elections, why would we waste time doing this?

Now we have to wait, because the players are weak, so it's normal not to log in every day. But when I saw that there were elections taking place, I shared it on Whatsapp so everyone could go and vote. Sorry if it's against the rules for new users to vote. I didn't know.

And what revenge? Why would we take revenge on people we don't even know? We just came here to have fun.
2024-06-25 14:53:52
Adivip para releme
I see that you always have the biggest problem and where does the suggestion that I ever talked to President Wojciechowski come from? I never even exchanged a word with him, stop lying even about such a thing. It's pathetic. Don't worry about your nerves. I'm glad that I'm no longer here because of people like you, now I'll at least have peace, and you keep creating your theories and slander. I feel sorry for the US community that it is not enough that such a weak coach is also a liar and a fraud.
2024-06-25 16:00:54
Blue para Adivip
I should have run... put an end to all this nonsense.. We would have at lease qualified for the WC then ;)

We should have US coaches for the US teams.

ANY US coach ever interested in any of our NT's .. You'll always have my vote!

Either way.. we have solid squad! I would be disappointed if we didn't qualify for the WC this season!
So if you can squander votes... please use those, and your other skills.. and win some games !!!
Thanks .. and Cheers!

ps. admins are a lazy bunch.. like any governing body... don't put too much faith in them. Just saying..
2024-06-25 16:12:11
"I already knew that if Adivip lost, I would be called a cheater. Ridiculous! The person who was banned during the elections for cheating was Adivip and not me. If you want to investigate something… ok, do it! But don't defame me."

to be clear - the only thing suspicious is the over 200% increase in turnout (for the senior team). If I recall correctly (and I could be wrong!) there were around 17 votes last cycle when Adivip won. It wasn't you winning, it was the volume of votes. Thing is, though, if Adivip hadn't send mass emails out to the country, this would look much more suspicious. However, the guy has almost greased the skids for this to happen - unintentionally.
2024-06-25 16:19:54
Actually no, expanding your stadium is a massive mistake. Not to mention I could link several of you who all did it in a random matter. See below:

https://sokker.org/arena/teamID/141282
https://sokker.org/arena/teamID/4040
https://sokker.org/arena/teamID/13111
https://sokker.org/arena/teamID/72641
https://sokker.org/arena/teamID/72710
https://sokker.org/arena/teamID/141262

There's several more, but that's enough for now.

Additionally, it is almost impossible to actively play this game and NOT finish second, if not auto-promote. It doesn't take a genius to do. It just takes maybe 2-3 purchases and one decent created tactic. Yet you, for example, finished 9th last season despite registering your team three months ago.

https://sokker.org/league?leagueID=1073&action=archive&season=66&round=22


Doesn't look like a hell of a lot of 'effort' to me. A trained monkey could get a promotion qualifier match out of B league provided he didn't join the league a month before the season ended.
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2024-06-25 16:31:40
islander para Blue
1) You totally should. I'd vouch for you if you wanted to really keep your old identity 'secret'.

2) I DO think qualifying is a huge ask. This is just conjecture on my part, but we appear to have quality issues at striker...and limited depth all around (to factor in form and injuries).
However this said, our performances over the last couple of seasons have been embarrassing. That last Gold Cup especially, just shameful.

People seem to forget this is a coaching job - not a general manager job. It's not about accumulating money, it is about accumulating results.
U21 takes even more creativity than full NT since you are dealing with unfinished and unbalanced players. This much I am acutely aware of.


Same old story with the admins. It's why I wish they'd allow one of us to take responsibility for the western hemisphere. Like many positive, productive ideas though, they'll be ignored without explanation.
2024-06-25 19:23:55
Messi's last logins also look interesting:


194.113.*.* 2024-06-25 14:20:16
194.113.*.* 2024-06-25 14:20:15
194.113.*.* 2024-06-24 10:22:33
194.113.*.* 2024-06-24 10:22:32
194.113.*.* 2024-06-10 09:10:34


The last time was on June 10, the day the elections started, and suddenly today to explain myself
2024-06-25 19:32:22
2) "I DO think qualifying is a huge ask. This is just conjecture on my part, but we appear to have quality issues at striker...and limited depth all around (to factor in form and injuries)." - This was the case last season, at the end of the season the best strikers returned to their best form, which was an example of the impressive victory over Panama 7:0, it's a pity that none of you noticed it, because you only focus on criticism.
"However this said, our performances over the last couple of seasons have been embarrassing. That last Gold Cup especially, just shameful." - Is a silver medal really a failure for you? And twice in a row? Especially since we lost the final after overtime? I will definitely be watching how the next coach, whoever it is, will do next season. Have you seen the Continental CUP semi-final? Did it escape your notice?

https://sokker.org/comment?matchID=41378804

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