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Asunto: Team of the Century
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A place to celebrate the best players ever to play for your team.
Sokkeroos
.-------------------- Barnes --------------------. (Byers, Hirons, Maras, Amien, Hrehoresin)
.-- Willis ---------------------------- Erdogan --.
.------------------- Stewart ---------------------. (Veart)
.------------- Baveas --- Timpano -------------. (Wideria)
.--- Morton - Mangos - Broxton - E.Kohler ---. (Pilic, Nikas, Howarth, Balabanel, Faria)
.--------------------------------------------------.
.------------------ Papaluca --------------------. (Ando)
The Comets
.------------- Bowen ---- Augerinos ------------. (Kightley, Necevski)
.- Erdogan* ------- Lesado-------- Stathakis --.
.----------------- O'Donoghue* -----------------. (Graham, O'Toole)
.---- Makitan - Romer - Erpence - Itapalo ----. (Aktimuroglu, Campbell)
.---------------------------------------------------.
.--------------------- Masi* ----------------------. (Gaina)
Team Moose Power
.---------------- Lagrange -- Butea -------------.
.- Cernikovas ----- Cucciardi -------------------.
.- Nesic* ---------- Bolton* --------- J.Kohler*-.
.------- E.Kohler - Midtsian*- Lioransas --------.
.---------------------------------------------------.
.------------------- Sahara -----------------------.
Post your own best of team and I'll add it to the list. We'll get some input from the ex-NT managers to build the Australian NT of the Century.
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Sokkeroos
.-------------------- Barnes --------------------. (Byers, Hirons, Maras, Amien, Hrehoresin)
.-- Willis ---------------------------- Erdogan --.
.------------------- Stewart ---------------------. (Veart)
.------------- Baveas --- Timpano -------------. (Wideria)
.--- Morton - Mangos - Broxton - E.Kohler ---. (Pilic, Nikas, Howarth, Balabanel, Faria)
.--------------------------------------------------.
.------------------ Papaluca --------------------. (Ando)
The Comets
.------------- Bowen ---- Augerinos ------------. (Kightley, Necevski)
.- Erdogan* ------- Lesado-------- Stathakis --.
.----------------- O'Donoghue* -----------------. (Graham, O'Toole)
.---- Makitan - Romer - Erpence - Itapalo ----. (Aktimuroglu, Campbell)
.---------------------------------------------------.
.--------------------- Masi* ----------------------. (Gaina)
Team Moose Power
.---------------- Lagrange -- Butea -------------.
.- Cernikovas ----- Cucciardi -------------------.
.- Nesic* ---------- Bolton* --------- J.Kohler*-.
.------- E.Kohler - Midtsian*- Lioransas --------.
.---------------------------------------------------.
.------------------- Sahara -----------------------.
Post your own best of team and I'll add it to the list. We'll get some input from the ex-NT managers to build the Australian NT of the Century.
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Team Moose Power
.---------------- Lagrange -- Butea -------------.
.- Cernikovas ----- Cucciardi -------------------.
.- Nesic* ---------- Bolton* --------- J.Kohler*-.
.------- E.Kohler - Midtsian*- Lioransas --------.
.---------------------------------------------------.
.------------------- Sahara -----------------------.
NT games: 697
As my squad enters another generation, I thought I should honour the players which have done the most for TMP over the years, before they all retire. No surprise it looks very similar to the team which won the double twice in 2011.
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.---------------- Lagrange -- Butea -------------.
.- Cernikovas ----- Cucciardi -------------------.
.- Nesic* ---------- Bolton* --------- J.Kohler*-.
.------- E.Kohler - Midtsian*- Lioransas --------.
.---------------------------------------------------.
.------------------- Sahara -----------------------.
NT games: 697
As my squad enters another generation, I thought I should honour the players which have done the most for TMP over the years, before they all retire. No surprise it looks very similar to the team which won the double twice in 2011.
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Well I won't be posting skill-wise, more like skill-wise-for the moment they played in-and how they played ;)
-------------Barnes-----------Amien------- // Maras, Hrehoresin
Willis-------------------------------Erdogan //
----------Veart---------Stewart------------
Morton---Mangos--Broxton--Kohler // Midtsian, Mrdja
-------------Papaluca---------------- // Ando
I can't remember the older winger stars...I know that there were North, Zdrillic...but who were the top 2 winger stars in old old days? Thompson? And?
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-------------Barnes-----------Amien------- // Maras, Hrehoresin
Willis-------------------------------Erdogan //
----------Veart---------Stewart------------
Morton---Mangos--Broxton--Kohler // Midtsian, Mrdja
-------------Papaluca---------------- // Ando
I can't remember the older winger stars...I know that there were North, Zdrillic...but who were the top 2 winger stars in old old days? Thompson? And?
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borkos007
Can't possibly not have Timpano and Baveas included in any list. Don't think we had too many wingers before North and Zdrilic as it wasn't really the era of wing play.
If I ever get my act together and update the db I was building I should then have a complete set. I have got every name of every player at least up until the beginning of 2011 and am able to query for just about anything that you can find off a match report with exception of injuries and minutes played.
If I ever get my act together and update the db I was building I should then have a complete set. I have got every name of every player at least up until the beginning of 2011 and am able to query for just about anything that you can find off a match report with exception of injuries and minutes played.
If I was going on a club basis I'd have to go with something like the following:
GK: Emil Masi (Matei Gaina)
DEF: Risto Itapalo, Dubravko Makitan, Baykurt Erpence, Idelgar Romer, (Seman Aktimuroglu, Hayden Campbell)
MID: Mark Erdogan, Denis Stathakis, Vilmar Lesado, Carl O'Donoghue (Jade Graham, Jonah O'Toole)
ATT: George Bowen, Wayne Augerinos (Tama Kightley, Kristian Necevski)
That would be based on effectiveness given the circumstances and not purely based on strongest stats (otherwise it would be my current team now).
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GK: Emil Masi (Matei Gaina)
DEF: Risto Itapalo, Dubravko Makitan, Baykurt Erpence, Idelgar Romer, (Seman Aktimuroglu, Hayden Campbell)
MID: Mark Erdogan, Denis Stathakis, Vilmar Lesado, Carl O'Donoghue (Jade Graham, Jonah O'Toole)
ATT: George Bowen, Wayne Augerinos (Tama Kightley, Kristian Necevski)
That would be based on effectiveness given the circumstances and not purely based on strongest stats (otherwise it would be my current team now).
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Broxton, Timpano, Baveas & Ando were my favourites.
Willis was an assist machine down the wing!
Is Erdogan the highest skilled midfielder to ever play for Australia?
Looking back, Papaluca has been NT keeper since 2008. Unbelievable!
What do you reckon... who makes the team out of Baveas, Stewart, Timpano & Veart?
Willis was an assist machine down the wing!
Is Erdogan the highest skilled midfielder to ever play for Australia?
Looking back, Papaluca has been NT keeper since 2008. Unbelievable!
What do you reckon... who makes the team out of Baveas, Stewart, Timpano & Veart?
Ah...I forgot about Baveas and Timpano!
Hard to say who would make the team :p by skills, I think Stewart&Baveas [in the old times skills weren't that good:P I remember the strikers had excellent pace and technique]
still, Veart was my all time favourite central mid :p
Hard to say who would make the team :p by skills, I think Stewart&Baveas [in the old times skills weren't that good:P I remember the strikers had excellent pace and technique]
still, Veart was my all time favourite central mid :p
How do they compare in terms of NT caps?
All 4 are legends of Australian Sokker. They'll all be in the Hall of Fame (when we get around to creating one). ;)
All 4 are legends of Australian Sokker. They'll all be in the Hall of Fame (when we get around to creating one). ;)
No idea, maybe cometer has the info stored somewhere - they are already deleted from sokker :/ only Stewart is left...
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vivski
How do they compare in terms of NT caps?
All 4 are legends of Australian Sokker. They'll all be in the Hall of Fame (when we get around to creating one). ;)
Stewart - 119* (60-70 of those in db, excluding U21 NT fixtures)
Timpano - 92
Baveas - 86
Veart - 75
*current caps as of 2013, otherwise back to 2011. Also includes U21 matches.
Fair number of caps there too, all around the same. I'd be less inclined to go with Veart and stick with Stewart/Baveas/Timpano in that order but Timpanos from a much earlier time period so it's debatable whether Timpano was worth more than Stewart.
All 4 are legends of Australian Sokker. They'll all be in the Hall of Fame (when we get around to creating one). ;)
Stewart - 119* (60-70 of those in db, excluding U21 NT fixtures)
Timpano - 92
Baveas - 86
Veart - 75
*current caps as of 2013, otherwise back to 2011. Also includes U21 matches.
Fair number of caps there too, all around the same. I'd be less inclined to go with Veart and stick with Stewart/Baveas/Timpano in that order but Timpanos from a much earlier time period so it's debatable whether Timpano was worth more than Stewart.
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vivski
Is Erdogan the highest skilled midfielder to ever play for Australia?
Pretty close. Stewart may have had more due to higher levels of defender and I'm trying to work out if Stathakis has more which I seem to recall is the case.
Edit: Yeah Stathakis has more skill points than Erdogan regardless of whether striking is considered or not.
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Pretty close. Stewart may have had more due to higher levels of defender and I'm trying to work out if Stathakis has more which I seem to recall is the case.
Edit: Yeah Stathakis has more skill points than Erdogan regardless of whether striking is considered or not.
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cometer [del]
3 in the midfield then, who gets the chop... Erdogan, Barnes or Amien?
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vivski
Amien wouldn't make the cut for me as solid a player as he was. Byers would probably be my first choice, along with Barnes or Newhill.
As for the choice of who to chop, depends on the formation and on what match engine we're basing it off? The one where wingers dominate or the ones where wingers are redundant and strikers efficiencies are terrible or the one where wingers are redundant and strikers efficiencies are excellent.
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As for the choice of who to chop, depends on the formation and on what match engine we're basing it off? The one where wingers dominate or the ones where wingers are redundant and strikers efficiencies are terrible or the one where wingers are redundant and strikers efficiencies are excellent.
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cometer [del]
This is how I remember the NT playing... ;)
Sokkeroos
.- Erdogan --------- Barnes --------------------. (Amien, Maras, Hrehoresin)
.-- Willis -----------------------------------------.
.------------------- Stewart ---------------------.
.------------ Baveas ---- Timpano -------------. (Veart)
.--- Morton - Mangos - Broxton - E.Kohler ---. (Midtsian, Mrdja)
.--------------------------------------------------.
.------------------ Papaluca --------------------. (Ando)
Sokkeroos
.- Erdogan --------- Barnes --------------------. (Amien, Maras, Hrehoresin)
.-- Willis -----------------------------------------.
.------------------- Stewart ---------------------.
.------------ Baveas ---- Timpano -------------. (Veart)
.--- Morton - Mangos - Broxton - E.Kohler ---. (Midtsian, Mrdja)
.--------------------------------------------------.
.------------------ Papaluca --------------------. (Ando)
cometer [del] para
vivski
throwing some others in the hat that haven't seemed to be mentioned:
Tony Nikas (def)
Karl Pilic (def)
Lucas Howarth (def)
Stewart Balabanel (def)
Noah Faria (def)
Royce Beauchamp (mid)
Stuart Widera (mid)
Kris Hirons (att)
Most of those defenders I'd put ahead of Midtsian and Mrdja and quite possibly even Morton.
Trying to pick 3 sides would be difficult. So much quality over the years and you get different sides depending on what criteria you set. Could be an interesting discussion ;).
Tony Nikas (def)
Karl Pilic (def)
Lucas Howarth (def)
Stewart Balabanel (def)
Noah Faria (def)
Royce Beauchamp (mid)
Stuart Widera (mid)
Kris Hirons (att)
Most of those defenders I'd put ahead of Midtsian and Mrdja and quite possibly even Morton.
Trying to pick 3 sides would be difficult. So much quality over the years and you get different sides depending on what criteria you set. Could be an interesting discussion ;).