Asunto: Training Reform

Thought this would be a good thread to state who is open to training what since the new training system came in.
I know not everyone can afford a head trainer with Magical/Unearthly in every skill, so just state what position or skills you are able to train (so that if someone needs to sell a player, they can find you to set up a time).

Training - What position/skills are you open to training?
Achmid - Any position
Fantum - DEF/ATT
Vampyr - DEF/MID/ATT


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I'm sure in the future, some sokker user will write up exactly what we need to know about this, but for now, I thought this would be a good topic to write about what you have picked up by reading the forums, about the reform.

I will try to update this first post with more likely/definitive information, and leave the posts for hearsay etc.
It's important we all get on top of this in a quick and easy way
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- training page should be replaced by new training page tomorrow (22/07/22)

- Prior to the training reform, it seems Raul had stated that you used to get 91% maximum training by playing one official match, and that the new system will be "much the same" for Advanced training. Hearing various numbers ranging from 91%-96% now for the new system.
Raul:Efficiency will be now visible - but it works the same as it was - till now, one official game for your player was exactly 91% of possible training" - quote
More % from those who were a "Tester"
League match - 96% Advanced Training, 93% for formation training
Cup match - 90% Advanced Training
Friendly Match - 90% Advanced Training, 80% formation training
As Advanced training start with 50%, playing 45min of an official match comes to 73% advanced training.
NT match is approx 30%


- Training efficiency of the new system will be based on the type of training they receive. ie 100% of Advanced Training (equivalent to the skill and position you are training in old system), is different to 100% formation training (closer to the general training players who played games received in the old system). One way to think of this is, 100% of Advanced training is about 5x more training than 100% of formation trained player.
- Right side skills MUST be trained by their respective position for most effectiveness (also in old training version).
- In the future, there will be Divine coaches and coach retirements - but not yet

Head coach skills is unchanged when it comes to training. Therefore if you want to train different skills the coach will need unearthly in all of those skills as opposed to just the one currently.

You will need to assign players to advanced training slots and formations. The player will need to play with those formations to get the advanced training.

Each formation can only be assigned a single skill to train at a time

Can train up to 10 players with advanced training. Choose wisely.

More % from those who were a "Tester"
League match - 96% Advanced Training, 93% for formation training
Cup match - 90% Advanced Training
Friendly Match - 90% Advanced Training, 80% formation training
As Advanced training start with 50%, playing 45min of an official match comes to 73% advanced training.
NT match is approx 30%

Let me correct some things:

Cup match is the same as league match, 96%/93%
Friendly match got reduced to 85%/70%
NT match is 73%/46% (same as a half of the league/cup match)

Two official matches - 100%/100%
Official match + friendly match - 99%/98%
Friendly match + 23 minutes of official match should be 96%/93% (needs to test this one on Sunday, but that's how it should be if my formulas are correct)

Thanks for that

READ THIS

I'm not sure what version is live, but it would be also worth setting up your training at this page:

https://sokker.org/en/app/training/training-setup/

This is the new training setup, so not sure if its just not visible via normal means, or if it hasn't been implemented this week, better safe than sorry

How is everyone finding the new training regime? Any thoughts or observations now that it's been up and running for a while?


I'm finding it gives me a bit more flexibility in managing my squad. In theory, for a stronger club, you can pretty much have an older first eleven where none of that eleven is a trainee... you certainly couldn't do that with the old system... not suggesting that's the best approach though.

Too early to tell for me. I like the flexibility of it, not sure if I enjoy the slow down in skills at the top end though combined with the shorter seasons as well.

Liking the ability to train across different positions/roles, but a bit filthy we had no clear date it would be implemented - kept being given times, but then delay.... & delay.
If I had trust in the actual cutover, I'd have kept a couple of gun striker youths, fully knowing I could train them for future first XI... & if I had my time again, definitely would have kept & trained out of position with pace/tech until new training kicked in.
Always inevitable my youths since then have been quite poor overall.
That said, might be time to start phasing out training for the 4 or 5 in my first XI, whilst keeping in the team for a longer period than I normally would.....& concentrating on 10 slots for a future first team.
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Only challenge with that is coach wages (probably more so recruitment costs) as training a first xi is taxing (although it is what I’m kind of attempting at the moment). The change came at a good time for myself as I was training pace anyway so I just extended pace training a bit further until it dropped. Still think my gripe is mostly to do with reduced weeks in a season and slowing down the higher end skills more so then before. Not sure Crampton will get to 3x divine now as a result of all that.

Agree, the shortened season hurts with getting players to divine skills. I'm fortunate enough to have a decent head coach in place well before changes hit, but he doesn't cover all skills, so that could be next on the horizon...new uber coach or another equivalent of current, covering the missing skills & possibly rotating as youth coach (just a pain to find).

I couldn't see any mention of injured players in the new training regime... If a player in my Advanced Training setup plays minutes to qualify for training, but then gets injured prior to the training update on Thursday... does he get any training? I assume not, but wondering if anyone definitively knows the answer to this one?

Don’t think so. Think that works same way as older system.

Have updated the first post so that people can post what position or skill they are open to training (even if they aren't training it now)

Just Aussies or is it possible to join in as a foreigner?

If the answer is yes to the second part of the question:
I'm open to take care of players of any position, besides gk training. I can provide great training and as much minutes as possible (c.a. 95% if necessary) with my coaches:
- head coach: 6x unearthly, low stamina and gk
- assistants: 3x magical (looking for new, unearthly ones to replace them).

I have following coaches that I switch depending on training -

Outstanding - Stam 15 / Pace 16/ Tech 15 / Def 16....for Stam, Pace, Def training
Excellent - Pace 15 / Tech 16 / Striker 16....for Tech, Striker training
Also -
Brilliant Youth Coach with PM 16 & most other skills 14+ if needing to pinch for training PM....for the time being.

My training now for what I see as my future first teamers is -
3 DEF (23yo Groom, 18yo Agius…& maybe 19yo Tong)
3 ATT (21yo Zillman, 20yo McColl, 20yo Oliviera)
That’s 6 youngish Oz players….plus 3 of my senior Oz DEF aged 25-26yo.
Training just the 1 international, but only whilst I wait for next Oz player.