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ok...nice to know that.
Do you know sth else what i don`t know?:)
Do you know sth else what i don`t know?:)
You are playing in polish 4th division and i am playing in estonian 2nd division - So "logically" i am playing in higher level and should get more than you. Your leagues in poland are stronger because you guys have played this came much longer than rest of others and it seems to be big advantage getting more money from sponsers.
I get $256k au with 1717 fans (on that economic update).
Fans and fan mood are key to sponsor money.
Fans and fan mood are key to sponsor money.
08.05.2005 - then you got your team
11.04.2005 - then I've got my team
So you see- almost none difference. And my league has higher level, cause it has better teams. Why should you get more money, when I'm the one winning with better teams?
11.04.2005 - then I've got my team
So you see- almost none difference. And my league has higher level, cause it has better teams. Why should you get more money, when I'm the one winning with better teams?
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borkos007
it really appears to me to be those nations with more players therefore have more divisions and the base division brackets are the same (for example try comparing bottom polish with bottom australia etc) if they are the same then it builds upwards thusdiv 4 in polska is 4th lowest A league in Australia is 4th lowest thus the similarity in sponsorship. Ofcourse, ratings helps assist the amount as such but imo there seems to clearly be brackets for each starting amount of each division. Interesting topic this though and for the record i got 195k this week from sponsors.
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which is approximately 170k $AU.
Interesting that it is very similar to the top of div 2 here.
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Interesting that it is very similar to the top of div 2 here.
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Terryball [del] para
borkos007
Borkos... you fail to see the point they are making.
What team will develope the best of these two?
1. a team getting more sponsor money
2. a team getting less.
Simple answer: 1.
Why is it so and what is the consequence?
- A team getting more money can increase staduim, invest more in youth, better coaches and hence improving the team faster than the other. I am totally sure you agree with this.
Consequence?
- If Polen get more money because it is aharder league, then they get more money, more youths, better coaches and hence as explained with the easy first example... they will develope faster than an australian team.
Consequence 2
- Polen have a great advantage since all their users get more money as it is harder. It is getting harder all the time so give them more money, and it gets harder again. Harder league -> more money -> harder league - more money (forever).
An aussie side that playes just as well as you do Borkos, but since he has a bit easier oppositions (since we are fewer playing) will develope his side slower. Hence the national team will be developed slower since the aussie sides has a weaker challenge than the polish.
You say you should get more money since you play harder sides. But for it to be fair world wide you should have the same challenge as the rest of the world. So no matter how good you are or who you play there are restrictions. Right now Polen has an unfair advantage.
As the money cannot increase forever (if so this game is totally crap) you have to set restrictions on how good a team can get and how much money they should have to play with to build a side. Easy way to do it is with spectators and sponsorship.
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What team will develope the best of these two?
1. a team getting more sponsor money
2. a team getting less.
Simple answer: 1.
Why is it so and what is the consequence?
- A team getting more money can increase staduim, invest more in youth, better coaches and hence improving the team faster than the other. I am totally sure you agree with this.
Consequence?
- If Polen get more money because it is aharder league, then they get more money, more youths, better coaches and hence as explained with the easy first example... they will develope faster than an australian team.
Consequence 2
- Polen have a great advantage since all their users get more money as it is harder. It is getting harder all the time so give them more money, and it gets harder again. Harder league -> more money -> harder league - more money (forever).
An aussie side that playes just as well as you do Borkos, but since he has a bit easier oppositions (since we are fewer playing) will develope his side slower. Hence the national team will be developed slower since the aussie sides has a weaker challenge than the polish.
You say you should get more money since you play harder sides. But for it to be fair world wide you should have the same challenge as the rest of the world. So no matter how good you are or who you play there are restrictions. Right now Polen has an unfair advantage.
As the money cannot increase forever (if so this game is totally crap) you have to set restrictions on how good a team can get and how much money they should have to play with to build a side. Easy way to do it is with spectators and sponsorship.
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So with a restricted sponsorship depending on elvel you play in (not the strenght of it) all the nations have the same opportunity.
Right now Polen has that advantage. How can we ever have a chance to even try to catch up if you should get more money?
If you want to compare it to the real world you are way off. This is not the real world, it's an online game. If you say Polen because they are bigger should get loads of more money, well... you are about to lose hell of a lot of managers from the rest of the world. We want it to be equal challenge for all, not advantage Polen.
Damn, it is so much to write when you have to explain every little thing.
So with a restricted sponsorship depending on elvel you play in (not the strenght of it) all the nations have the same opportunity.
Right now Polen has that advantage. How can we ever have a chance to even try to catch up if you should get more money?
If you want to compare it to the real world you are way off. This is not the real world, it's an online game. If you say Polen because they are bigger should get loads of more money, well... you are about to lose hell of a lot of managers from the rest of the world. We want it to be equal challenge for all, not advantage Polen.
Damn, it is so much to write when you have to explain every little thing.
And you don't see one point - at the beginning all teams in all leagues get same amount.
You say you should get more money since you play harder sides. But for it to be fair world wide you should have the same challenge as the rest of the world. So no matter how good you are or who you play there are restrictions. Right now Polen has an unfair advantage.
So all teams should get same sponsors? ;)
Look, on the other side - Team A plays in Australia, team B in Poland. League II in Poland, A league in Australia. Team A has weaker opponents so it wins all the time, so it gets more and more money. Team B[in PL] has better opponents so it often loose, and draw - he gets less money.
Is this version fair?
Right now Polen has that advantage. How can we ever have a chance to even try to catch up if you should get more money?
Hm...so how did I catch up so many teams that started before me?
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You say you should get more money since you play harder sides. But for it to be fair world wide you should have the same challenge as the rest of the world. So no matter how good you are or who you play there are restrictions. Right now Polen has an unfair advantage.
So all teams should get same sponsors? ;)
Look, on the other side - Team A plays in Australia, team B in Poland. League II in Poland, A league in Australia. Team A has weaker opponents so it wins all the time, so it gets more and more money. Team B[in PL] has better opponents so it often loose, and draw - he gets less money.
Is this version fair?
Right now Polen has that advantage. How can we ever have a chance to even try to catch up if you should get more money?
Hm...so how did I catch up so many teams that started before me?
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I get 158 733 € from sponsors and I have won my league every season.
Terryball [del] para
borkos007
I see your point, but I just don't agree at all.
Yes, the polish team would get less money and so it should be. Difference with a winning side and a losing one.
Right now the losing one is getting more. Now that is just stupid. A team in IV in Polen should not get more than an A-league side in Australia (considering they have played sort of equal amount of time).
If you say all polish teams should have an advantage over the rest of the world, then this game is going down hill.
The game must have restrictions. This would slow down the differences instead of increasing them.Sponsorship is an easy and good way to do it.
Yes, the polish team would get less money and so it should be. Difference with a winning side and a losing one.
Right now the losing one is getting more. Now that is just stupid. A team in IV in Polen should not get more than an A-league side in Australia (considering they have played sort of equal amount of time).
If you say all polish teams should have an advantage over the rest of the world, then this game is going down hill.
The game must have restrictions. This would slow down the differences instead of increasing them.Sponsorship is an easy and good way to do it.
Right now the losing one is getting more.
That's not true. I've told you, that player who was losing in 2nd league was getting less that I'm getting now. And my league is at 3rd league level, almost.
If you say all polish teams should have an advantage over the rest of the world, then this game is going down hill.
I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that it's harder to win in Poland than in Australia.
That's not true. I've told you, that player who was losing in 2nd league was getting less that I'm getting now. And my league is at 3rd league level, almost.
If you say all polish teams should have an advantage over the rest of the world, then this game is going down hill.
I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that it's harder to win in Poland than in Australia.