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Asunto: Youth players
Great distribution all right, keep the talent of the public notes and he should go for a good amount.
Really is a shame about his talent because he would fit beautifully into my team
Really is a shame about his talent because he would fit beautifully into my team
Exc 2+ Talent 7
Harry Chang, age 18
value: 90 400 AU$
wage: 1 440 AU$
very good form
weak stamina hopeless keeper
unsatisfactory pace tragic defender
solid technique adequate playmaker
adequate passing poor striker
VG 2+ Talent 7
Kyle Whitehouse, age 20
value: 111 200 AU$
wage: 1 720 AU$
very good form
poor stamina hopeless keeper
excellent pace weak defender
unsatisfactory technique unsatisfactory playmaker
unsatisfactory passing unsatisfactory striker
Harry Chang, age 18
value: 90 400 AU$
wage: 1 440 AU$
very good form
weak stamina hopeless keeper
unsatisfactory pace tragic defender
solid technique adequate playmaker
adequate passing poor striker
VG 2+ Talent 7
Kyle Whitehouse, age 20
value: 111 200 AU$
wage: 1 720 AU$
very good form
poor stamina hopeless keeper
excellent pace weak defender
unsatisfactory technique unsatisfactory playmaker
unsatisfactory passing unsatisfactory striker
Yeah, if only he were 16.
I'll list tomorrow, at around 5.30pm AEST.
I'll list tomorrow, at around 5.30pm AEST.
excellent; talent= 3.5!
Edward Laurie, Age: 18
Value: 64 250 $, Salary: 1 025 $
Team: Da Minkees, Country: Australia
Form: very good (9)
Stamina: average (5), Keeper: tragic (0)
Pace: weak (4), Defender: poor (3)
Technique: tragic (0), Playmaker: average (5)
Passing: excellent (10), Striker: hopeless (1)
formidale; talent = 4.0!
Brenton Tong, Age: 19
Value: 69 500 $, Salary: 1 050 $
Team: Da Minkees, Country: Australia
Form: very good (9)
Stamina: weak (4), Keeper: tragic (0)
Pace: poor (3), Defender: good (7)
Technique: good (7), Playmaker: very good (9)
Passing: unsatisfactory (2), Striker: hopeless (1)
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Edward Laurie, Age: 18
Value: 64 250 $, Salary: 1 025 $
Team: Da Minkees, Country: Australia
Form: very good (9)
Stamina: average (5), Keeper: tragic (0)
Pace: weak (4), Defender: poor (3)
Technique: tragic (0), Playmaker: average (5)
Passing: excellent (10), Striker: hopeless (1)
formidale; talent = 4.0!
Brenton Tong, Age: 19
Value: 69 500 $, Salary: 1 050 $
Team: Da Minkees, Country: Australia
Form: very good (9)
Stamina: weak (4), Keeper: tragic (0)
Pace: poor (3), Defender: good (7)
Technique: good (7), Playmaker: very good (9)
Passing: unsatisfactory (2), Striker: hopeless (1)
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Minkee [del]
what sort of coach do you have to get a talent of 3.5?
and do they have the same talent just age modifier makes it 4? you wouldnt know until they come out, but is that how it works?
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and do they have the same talent just age modifier makes it 4? you wouldnt know until they come out, but is that how it works?
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voron [del]
my YS coach is magical, you'll have to wait a few seasons before you can afford one...
You can work out the talent by tracking the juniors's pop in the YS.
That's where Sokker Organiser comes very handy because it does it for you every time you update it after thursday's training.
Each players has a different talent and a young pull will also pop more often than an old player. It also depends the level reached in the skill you train as a pop from average to adequate will be quicker than one from excellent to formidable.
To be honest, I don't worry about all these details anymore, if the player is talented it means he will progress quicker than one that is not and not only in the skill he is trained.
After a whille you will look at juniors and be able to see what they will look like in a few seasons time. It's just practice...
You can work out the talent by tracking the juniors's pop in the YS.
That's where Sokker Organiser comes very handy because it does it for you every time you update it after thursday's training.
Each players has a different talent and a young pull will also pop more often than an old player. It also depends the level reached in the skill you train as a pop from average to adequate will be quicker than one from excellent to formidable.
To be honest, I don't worry about all these details anymore, if the player is talented it means he will progress quicker than one that is not and not only in the skill he is trained.
After a whille you will look at juniors and be able to see what they will look like in a few seasons time. It's just practice...
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voron [del]
Each player basically has a talent factor to determine how quickly they train. This factor is hidden and nobody knows the true talent. Instead people estimate talent by counting the time it takes to pop, after ignoring the 1st pop (due to sub-levels). So if it takes 3 weeks to pop between the 1st and 2nd pop in the youth school then 4 weeks between the 2nd and 3rd pop in the youth school then it's roughly 3.5.
This is what most present talent as, others have no idea and try to use talent as how long it takes to pop between skills in the normal squad when training. This is an inaccurate way of estimating because every level takes longer, changes with age and is constantly changing.
To get 3.5 you could probably get them with an excellent coach, although the higher the coach the more likely you are to get them (although I don't believe you can improve your chances at all of getting higher true talents with better coaches, it's just luck of the draw). The only difference is the higher the estimated talent (where 3 is higher than 4 talent wise), the higher the level they get pulled out as (where formidable is higher than excellent for example) and consequently a higher amount of skill points to be distributed when the player is pulled (which is allocated randomly (well it probably isn't but to us it appears random)).
Basically on the Saturday upto 6 juniors enter your youth school so long as you've got space, they come with a pre-determined talent and a pre-determined starting age which you can't see. They age when everyone else ages, so age has nothing to do with improving their talent (although the older they are in the normal squad the slower they train)
I guess in summary:
a) Each player has a unknown talent factor
b) Best way of estimating is in the junior school
c) Age has nothing to do with talent itself, but training speed decreases with age
d) The higher the youth coach, the more chance of pulling higher "estimated" talents and a better chance of better distribution of skills when pulled.
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This is what most present talent as, others have no idea and try to use talent as how long it takes to pop between skills in the normal squad when training. This is an inaccurate way of estimating because every level takes longer, changes with age and is constantly changing.
To get 3.5 you could probably get them with an excellent coach, although the higher the coach the more likely you are to get them (although I don't believe you can improve your chances at all of getting higher true talents with better coaches, it's just luck of the draw). The only difference is the higher the estimated talent (where 3 is higher than 4 talent wise), the higher the level they get pulled out as (where formidable is higher than excellent for example) and consequently a higher amount of skill points to be distributed when the player is pulled (which is allocated randomly (well it probably isn't but to us it appears random)).
Basically on the Saturday upto 6 juniors enter your youth school so long as you've got space, they come with a pre-determined talent and a pre-determined starting age which you can't see. They age when everyone else ages, so age has nothing to do with improving their talent (although the older they are in the normal squad the slower they train)
I guess in summary:
a) Each player has a unknown talent factor
b) Best way of estimating is in the junior school
c) Age has nothing to do with talent itself, but training speed decreases with age
d) The higher the youth coach, the more chance of pulling higher "estimated" talents and a better chance of better distribution of skills when pulled.
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is d) true?
I always thought that a better youth coach trains your youth players better (ie a "4" talent youth with an exc coach might be a "3.5" with a magical coach). Not that it influenced your chances of getting a more talented youth to begin with (ie you would pull more talented youths).
Maybe I'm just reading what you typed wrong?
I always thought that a better youth coach trains your youth players better (ie a "4" talent youth with an exc coach might be a "3.5" with a magical coach). Not that it influenced your chances of getting a more talented youth to begin with (ie you would pull more talented youths).
Maybe I'm just reading what you typed wrong?
what he said is what you said, just put differently :P
basically what you said was what I was saying or at least intending it to mean. It doesn't increase chances for getting a player to begin with.
that's why my last paragraph is less confusing for everybody...
it cuts the crap :p
it cuts the crap :p
The talent is the same no matter what the coach's level. The better coach will cause the general skill level to pop faster due to his better coaching. The common conception is that difference is about 0.2 per level of coach.
So a player that pops every 4 weeks with a level 11 youth coach (formidable) will pop about every 3.2 weeks with a level (15) magic youth coach. 4 levels x 0.2 = 0.8 faster.
The more pops the better the skills at graduation so although the player has the same talent with any coach, the higher the coach, the better the skills when he graduates. And as anyone will tell you, the prices paid for players goes up expontentially. So the same player graduating as outstanding player (lvl 12) is not worth twice an adequate player (lvl 6), he's worth heaps more. That is why people pay extra for the better coach.
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So a player that pops every 4 weeks with a level 11 youth coach (formidable) will pop about every 3.2 weeks with a level (15) magic youth coach. 4 levels x 0.2 = 0.8 faster.
The more pops the better the skills at graduation so although the player has the same talent with any coach, the higher the coach, the better the skills when he graduates. And as anyone will tell you, the prices paid for players goes up expontentially. So the same player graduating as outstanding player (lvl 12) is not worth twice an adequate player (lvl 6), he's worth heaps more. That is why people pay extra for the better coach.
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The confusion is between the terms talent (hidden), skill (shown on graduation) and youth school talent (a combination of youth school coach skill and player talent).
Youth school talent is the only talent we can measure so that is what gets quoted to estimate real talent. But is the the reason why some people will say 4.0 talent with formidable coach when expressing a players talent.
***It all makes so much sesnse after all these bundy's. It may make no sense tomorrow.....***
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Youth school talent is the only talent we can measure so that is what gets quoted to estimate real talent. But is the the reason why some people will say 4.0 talent with formidable coach when expressing a players talent.
***It all makes so much sesnse after all these bundy's. It may make no sense tomorrow.....***
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You'll realise you also echoed what I was saying :).
we all agree anyway... just different way of saying it...
you'll be good politicians, I'd be asleep after the first sentence :)
you'll be good politicians, I'd be asleep after the first sentence :)
Just listed. Excellent 4.0 talent.
Gareth Coveny, age: 20
club: Losers, country: Australia
value: 70 400 AU$, wage: 1 240 AU$
very good form, tragic tactical discipline
average stamina tragic keeper
unsatisfactory pace tragic defender
adequate technique average playmaker
unsatisfactory passing solid striker
Gareth Coveny, age: 20
club: Losers, country: Australia
value: 70 400 AU$, wage: 1 240 AU$
very good form, tragic tactical discipline
average stamina tragic keeper
unsatisfactory pace tragic defender
adequate technique average playmaker
unsatisfactory passing solid striker