Asunto: Youth players

I swear we have just pulled the core of our u21 side in 3 seasons this past 2 weeks if you throw in Shaw as well.

I’ve got a brilliant coming next week too.

3 kids, all talented but pretty terrible, all to be sacked.

Sam Burns, age: 16, height: 180 cm
value: 13 200 AU$, wage: 680 AU$
club: Cool Runnings, country: Australia
form [9] very good, tactical discipline [0] tragic

stamina [2] unsatisfactory, keeper [0] tragic
pace [1] hopeless, defender [3] poor
technique [2] unsatisfactory, playmaker [0] tragic
passing [2] unsatisfactory, striker [2] unsatisfactory

Tom Selling, age: 16, height: 174 cm
value: 12 800 AU$, wage: 680 AU$
club: Cool Runnings, country: Australia
form [9] very good, tactical discipline [0] tragic

stamina [4] weak, keeper [1] hopeless
pace [1] hopeless, defender [2] unsatisfactory
technique [2] unsatisfactory, playmaker [1] hopeless
passing [1] hopeless, striker [1] hopeless

Shaun Kelly, age: 17, height: 178 cm
value: 64 000 AU$, wage: 1 120 AU$
club: Cool Runnings, country: Australia
form [9] very good, tactical discipline [0] tragic

stamina [1] hopeless, keeper [0] tragic
pace [0] tragic, defender [0] tragic
technique [1] hopeless, playmaker [6] adequate
passing [6] adequate, striker [7] good

I see your Sutherland "Keeper" and raise you a Xu "keeper"

Formidable GK

Jose Xu, age: 19
club: Ginger Nuts, country: Australia
value : 121 600 AU$
wage: 1 840 AU$
very good [9] form
tragic [0] tactical discipline
height: 182 cm, weight: 76.1 kg, BMI: 22.97

average [5] stamina hopeless [1] keeper
excellent [10] pace tragic [0] defender
tragic [0] technique tragic [0] playmaker
solid [8] passing tragic [0] striker

Has been a lot of these “keepers” recently.

I'm thinking of just ditching keeper juniors regardless of skill level to be honest. I don't have a trainer that covers keeping and there doesn't seem to be much of a market in keeper trainees so other than match performance they are a wasted spot

Understand your thought processes and if you choose to go that way that's fine.

Personally though there's a few things I'll mention (aim isn't to say your idea isn't the better option either mind you, just some of my thoughts on the issue to make the decision more informed).

1) If you plan on playing junior leagues at any stage you're going to want a GK youth or two if you want to do well. A good GK here is so important because you know they're a keeper (you don't know that about any other position) and so therefore a good keeper basically dominates any player playing as a striker if they don't have striking skill. You can be outshot and still win as a result.

2) If you have a really good prospect, even if it's a keeper, someone here will buy them or train them (even if you can't). From a NT perspective GK's use to always be the hardest position to get a good one because in the old system no one trained GK's (was an absolute waste of potential and you'd have to be dedicated to the NT to train one as you got 2 training spots when training GK a week). Probably less an issue now but it use to be a lot of good GK prospects never really went anywhere as someone would take them as a backup GK or train them a little then stop. I think in this current environment people are training their own GK and that's brought the price of GK's down on the TL as a result. I guess what I'm trying to say here is that even if you keep and pull a good GK someone here will be willing to train them and that works out better from an NT perspective.

3) Related to 2) but we have a limited player pool here in Australia. A talent is a talent regardless of position. I'd hate for any talented player to be sacked simply for being a GK.

4) GK's are easy to train if you ever do decide to train 1 and are worth their cost. A good GK causes frustration (especially if they're in form and opponent strikers aren't). Only really require 2 skills primarily too. Whilst you might not want them now, you might in a few seasons when you're looking to build towards the top league.

5) Sometimes (albeit rarely) a GK youth comes out looking more like an outfield player. If they're young and talented, you've thrown away an opportunity of training them as an outfield player.

Overall, I guess my main reasoning is if they're a good talent I'd recommend keeping them, even if you don't think it will benefit you much. The NT needs as many as we can get and someone will buy our NT prospects if they need a home. That being said, feel free to trash any bad ones (as that would be my advice for outfield players too).

Ultimately your call, but for myself I don't care about position as much as I do about talent and age and I think you're rarely in a scenario where you have to decide whether to toss a talented player away to make room for newer youth.

End of bidding: 2023-11-21 15:30

About to pop for "very good" striker.

Owen Beldham, age: 16, height: 185 cm
value: 74 400 AU$, wage: 1 000 AU$
club: Cruising Kings, country: Australia
brilliant form, weak tactical discipline

hopeless stamina, tragic keeper
unsatisfactory pace, tragic defender
average technique, unsatisfactory playmaker
tragic passing, solid striker
(editado)

Pulled as adequate

Gary Douglas, age: 16
club: The Comets, country: Australia
value : 27 600 AU$ wage: 800 AU$
very good [9] form tragic [0] tactical discipline
height: 186 cm, weight: 85.1 kg, BMI: 24.6

unsatisfactory [2] stamina tragic [0] keeper
average [5] pace unsatisfactory [2] defender
unsatisfactory [2] technique poor [3] playmaker
poor [3] passing hopeless [1] striker

Pulled as good

Edward Holmes, age: 17
club: The Comets, country: Australia
value : 38 400 AU$ wage: 880 AU$
very good [9] form tragic [0] tactical discipline
height: 171 cm, weight: 76.5 kg, BMI: 26.16

tragic [0] stamina tragic [0] keeper
poor [3] pace tragic [0] defender
weak [4] technique adequate [6] playmaker
unsatisfactory [2] passing average [5] striker

Pulled as good

Brent Skoko, age: 19
club: The Comets, country: Australia
value : 50 000 AU$ wage: 960 AU$
very good [9] form tragic [0] tactical discipline
height: 173 cm, weight: 71.4 kg, BMI: 23.86

weak [4] stamina hopeless [1] keeper
weak [4] pace average [5] defender
average [5] technique tragic [0] playmaker
adequate [6] passing hopeless [1] striker

Pulled as excellent

Alex Scuderi, age: 19
club: The Comets, country: Australia
value : 102 000 AU$ wage: 1 520 AU$
very good [9] form tragic [0] tactical discipline
height: 187 cm, weight: 78.1 kg, BMI: 22.33

tragic [0] stamina tragic [0] keeper
good [7] pace hopeless [1] defender
tragic [0] technique solid [8] playmaker
poor [3] passing good [7] striker

Nothing really stunning there.

Pulled as brilliant

Dale Rose, age: 18
club: The Comets, country: Australia
value : 216 000 AU$ wage: 2 760 AU$
very good [9] form tragic [0] tactical discipline
height: 181 cm, weight: 72.5 kg, BMI: 22.13

weak [4] stamina hopeless [1] keeper
solid [8] pace good [7] defender
adequate [6] technique unsatisfactory [2] playmaker
very good [9] passing very good [9] striker

Not as good as it could have been which is a little unfortunate. The striker goes on pm and we're in business. The passing goes on technique and we're also in business. Still might be able to be salvaged but most likely as a striker.

I will plug him in to the database and see what the results are a little later

Very Good, Talent 3.74

Steven Ho, age: 17
club: Achmids Soul, country: Australia
value : 72 000 AU$
wage: 1 240 AU$
very good [9] form
tragic [0] tactical discipline
height: 186 cm, weight: 81.8 kg, BMI: 23.64

poor [3] stamina tragic [0] keeper
good [7] pace solid [8] defender
poor [3] technique unsatisfactory [2] playmaker
hopeless [1] passing poor [3] striker

Well that's a pretty good pull I must say. The two main skills perfectly where they were needed.

Now I need to make some training decisions

Brilliant 3.51 Talent

Grant Bocquee, age: 19
club: Ginger Nuts, country: Australia
value : 156 400 AU$
wage: 2 120 AU$
very good [9] form
tragic [0] tactical discipline
height: 181 cm, weight: 77.1 kg, BMI: 23.53

adequate [6] stamina tragic [0] keeper
poor [3] pace unsatisfactory [2] defender
solid [8] technique weak [4] playmaker
very good [9] passing very good [9] striker

Looks like stamina hit me.

Average

Jamal Osman, age: 18
club: Ginger Nuts, country: Australia
value : 20 400 AU$
wage: 720 AU$
very good [9] form
tragic [0] tactical discipline
height: 181 cm, weight: 77.9 kg, BMI: 23.78

hopeless [1] stamina tragic [0] keeper
poor [3] pace poor [3] defender
poor [3] technique unsatisfactory [2] playmaker
tragic [0] passing poor [3] striker

Stamina hit you a little yeah but it may also have been an incredible rather than brilliant. Then you got the same unlucky distribution like I got with passing and striker being your high levels. Had passing fallen onto pace you'd have been sitting pretty.

He's actually very talented. Up 2 levels in 4wk. But I think it's too late in the season for him. Listed.

Wesley Alogdellis, age: 16, height: 178 cm
value: 15 200 AU$, wage: 680 AU$
club: Cool Runnings, country: Australia
form [9] very good, tactical discipline [0] tragic

stamina [2] unsatisfactory, keeper [0] tragic
pace [2] unsatisfactory, defender [1] hopeless
technique [2] unsatisfactory, playmaker [3] poor
passing [0] tragic, striker [3] poor

meh.

Talent = 5.7

Max Cooper, age: 17
club: Chelsea.F.C, country: Australia
value : 96 400 AU$
wage: 1 480 AU$
height: 186 cm, weight: 84.2 kg, BMI: 24.34

weak [4] stamina tragic [0] keeper
hopeless [1] pace good [7] defender
poor [3] technique good [7] playmaker
tragic [0] passing solid [8] striker

My Good Keeper

Tim Maninga, age: 16
club: Phil My Tank XI, country: Australia
value : 14 800 AU$
wage: 720 AU$
very good [9] form
tragic [0] tactical discipline
height: 175 cm, weight: 78 kg, BMI: 25.47

adequate [6] stamina tragic [0] keeper
hopeless [1] pace hopeless [1] defender
hopeless [1] technique hopeless [1] playmaker
poor [3] passing hopeless [1] striker


Adequate talent 4.38

Enzo Karas, age: 17
club: Phil My Tank XI, country: Australia
value : 44 400 AU$
wage: 960 AU$
very good [9] form
tragic [0] tactical discipline
height: 181 cm, weight: 80.1 kg, BMI: 24.45

hopeless [1] stamina tragic [0] keeper
weak [4] pace poor [3] defender
poor [3] technique poor [3] playmaker
tragic [0] passing good [7] striker


Formidable talent 3.8

Terje Boyd, age: 18
club: Phil My Tank XI, country: Australia
value : 110 000 AU$
wage: 1 560 AU$
very good [9] form
tragic [0] tactical discipline
height: 169 cm, weight: 65 kg, BMI: 22.76

weak [4] stamina tragic [0] keeper
good [7] pace good [7] defender
average [5] technique average [5] playmaker
hopeless [1] passing good [7] striker