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Asunto: The "give your team the hairdryer treatm

2013-01-17 19:33:10
On another note & back to the hairdryer....

...only one training pop this week...& that was a 29yo to magical tech....on striker training??

Lazy fekkers!! :-)
2013-01-17 19:43:57
nah, not his youth pull stats - I'm his 4th club
2013-01-17 20:05:48
was gonna say....formid (11) skills...makes sense now.
2013-01-18 04:05:47
You used to have all magical assistants. What happened?

I'm 2xunearthly, 3xmagical. Expensive!
2013-01-18 04:16:43
2x brilliant, 1x excellent, 2x solid
2013-01-18 07:06:37
2x magical, 2x brilliant, 1x formidable... Happy enough with that all things considered.
2013-01-18 10:29:49
2x brilliant, 1x excellent, 2x solid

Seriously?!?! That much lost training/value would drive me insane.
2013-01-18 10:45:16
I have 2 magic+ 3 outstandig and happy with them
before i had 1 unearthly+ 4 magic. I must say, no different
2013-01-18 11:39:48
That much lost training/value would drive me insane.

How can you quantify how much lost training/value? It could be money well saved if the difference isn't that much.
2013-01-18 12:45:24
Weekly coaching expenses, 118k.
How much training are my players missing out on?

Don't have cash lying around to upgrade coaches.
2013-01-18 22:05:45
Vivski:
Youth = brilliant = 14
Main = 1x brilliant, 1x excellent, 2x solid = 14+10+8+8 =40

uber:
Youth = magic = 15
Main = 2xmagic + 2xuneathly = 2x14 + 2x15 = 58

My youth school trains = 7% faster
A 4wk/pop in my school takes 4.3 weeks in vivski's school. That matches the 0.3/pop estimate for each level of coach back when talent was accurate.


My main training = 45% faster
This is much more complex with head + assistant effect obviously, but that is an estimate.

I pay 350k/wk and vivski pays 118k. I'll let you wall decide whether its worth it or not, but I see player prices vs sumskill as closer to exponential rather than linear. Those extra pop or two in junior school make a big price difference. I dare say vivski would struggle to train a 3xdivine striker or a 5xmagic midfielder.
2013-01-18 22:14:33
I think players underestimate the power of "random" pops. I think vivski and I would probably get similar progress on primary pops, but I reckon the secondary training would be noticably slower at vivski's. General consensus is that random pops are 10x slower than primary pops. So a 4 week primary pop vs vivski's 5 week primary pop blows out to 40weeks vs 50weeks but that gets multiplied over the 5 primary you are not training. That is big difference IMO. Of course this is just speculation :)

I think the gain vs $'s of brilliant vs unearthly isn't worth it probably, but I think having solids and excellent assistants is mental. You don't need much more money to set up 3xbrilliant assistants.
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2013-01-18 22:16:09
I used to have unearthly/magical assistants, now I have 3x brilliant and I must say that I don't see a difference...
2013-01-18 22:17:27
How much is "much more money"?
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2013-01-19 01:34:47
In early life, you might get a random pop after 20wk(17yo), then 30wk(19yo), then 40wk(21yo), then 60wk(24yo). Approx 150wk, 9-10 seasons for 4 pops.
If I'm 25wk, 38wk, 50wk, 75wk, it will take an extra 2 seasons to get that 4th pop per skill, per 4wk talented player.
That's very vague, but essentially, your trained players may be one pop per skill better than mine.

Given the average age of my squad is 28-29, I'm not that concerned about random pops. My current batch og trainees are 18, 22, 23 & 23. So I'm not expecting much in the way of random pops. If I was training players from 16-17yo, I'd definitely upgrade my assistants.

In my current situation, I can't justify 3.6M/yr + transfer fees to upgrade to that level. It's about time I moved up to maybe formid/outstanding assistants. Means spending more time on the TL.
2013-01-19 01:36:33
Excellent wage = 15k
Brilliant wage = 40k

So for 3 assistants, total extra wage is 75k for a 40% increase in assistant training power. 260% more cost for 140% more training. 75k/wk is nothing and a no brainer especially after seat prices went up and wages stayed the same.

I agree with borkos that there isn't much difference between brilliant and magical, plus the large wage increases dwarf the benefit. I'm happy to pay for the luxury since I still break even over the fortnight.

The unearthly assistant I have is VERY hard to justify in terms of value. It is totally about vanity. My unearthly compared to my magical coach is 36% more wage for 2.4% more sumskill. Totally not worth it. I kept him because he had unearthly GK (very expensive) but I wanted random training for Elrich whilst I had him.