Asunto: The "give your team the hairdryer treatm

The time required on the transfer market in my/our time zone(s) is such an interest killer.

I don't want to run my life around this game. Even overbidding doesn't reliably work (and is a long term losing strategy anyway)

Ditto that. Add to the fact that there just aren't many players on the low end of the spectrum anymore either due to the # of users decreasing and most of them all seeking higher ended players. Struggling to even pick up players that build upon my squad atm, mostly due to the majority of transfers happening when I'm not awake and those that do because they are so few and far between, someone else also wants and is willing to break their bank for it. They really need a max bid function (although I suspect again that this by itself won't solve the issue, as those with money will still be willing to break the bank).

Or you can train players perfectly and come up with a decent loss (% wise) as happened with the striker I just sold.

I'm not going to cry over 200k loss, but he definitely deserved to go for a lot more, trained in pace and even randomed in other ATT skills and still had a massive lose % wise.

Forgot to set my friendly lineup.

Looks like I'll get a week of stamina.

How many random pops do you generally see in the same skill. For example, if a player randomed in tech (assuming he is 18y), approximately how long does it take to get a random pop from him in the same skill?

I have players who usually randomly pop just once but there are 2 players who have randomed in defence twice after 16 weeks and 20 weeks respectively of general training(One is 19y and the other is 21y). But in other skills, no player has yet randomly popped twice.

How many random pops do you generally see in the same skill. For example, if a player randomed in tech (assuming he is 18y), approximately how long does it take to get a random pop from him in the same skill?

I have players who usually randomly pop just once but there are 2 players who have randomed in defence twice after 16 weeks and 20 weeks respectively of general training(One is 19y and the other is 21y). But in other skills, no player has yet randomly popped twice.

Depends on your coaching staff, the talent of the player in question, their age, how much they played over the course of the week and also the level of the skill that's increasing. From a pure technical discussion point there is no such thing as a "random" pop. Instead you receive some form of general training which is usually so small you hardly notice it making these pops seem as if they're random when they're not really.

Anything I quote here is speculative at best as there are just way too many variables, but it's not impossible to get 2 pops in the same untrained skill over a 1-2 season period. Usually though, that would be at the lower end in levels I'd have thought.

Edit: Also depends how far along the skill they are as well. So something like very good [9] could be anywhere from 9.00 to 9.99 (or something like that anyway). The closer they are to the next level, the less weeks it's going to take to random in that same skill again.

Same is true for the skill drop each week as well for older players. They gradually lose skill value each week making it look like a random drop.
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What cometer said is all technically trur, but I assume you already know that.

As a very crude rule of thumb, I go on a random pop approx every 2 seasons

2 seasons is pretty long for a random pop. I need to recalculate who I buy from now onwards.

A word of warning. Training pace on players above 21 does not appear to be a commercially viable strategy.

Large losses on my way out on guys I trained for multiple seasons most of whom had random improvements and still aren't that old.

I think the only way to make actual profits on trainees in this game is to make private deals with Polish people.

It seems listing, at any time of day, without one of those deals, 9 time out of 10 you make a loss.

Some people swear by pace training as a good way to make money, others think exactly what you said (and is my experience too), unless I have made these private deals with Polish teams.

And I believe the same can be said for all other skills too, Pace is just the most widely discussed one due to how different the training is from the other skills.

This is one reason I am really looking forward to the new training regime to come in to play, I can just train my own home grown players and not deal with the Transfer Market if I don't want (as you can train a different skill to each of the major positions - ATT/MID/DEF/GK), and from what I knew from you in my previous sokker life, and some of the issues you have had even recently, feel it will be right up your alley as well.

I think Australia will also be a lot stronger because of it, as we heavily invest in our own youth schools, and communicate quite well between each other when trying to sell players.

What’s the new training regime? I tuned out to the announcements.

Yeah, whilst I can't say much about the current state of the transfer market, I've always found that training pace, unless they have a high primary stat won't return too much because most who search the TL will have a filter on the main primary, or want to pick up someone and train pace to them (as pace is probably the easiest skill to train outside of stamina). Exceptions exist of course but it seems pace isn't valued particularly highly. Is that due to the low number of users who are in the upper/mid tier financially speaking. We seem to have a lot of users these days who have been around a very long time so only want to buy the best players/juniors or those who are at the start and can't afford to pay extreme prices for things.

Then I feel people either want ready made players, or the youngest age possible, so you're mid 20's are probably a difficult market to make profit on if pace is the only training skill.

All of this could be completely wrong, I feel like tech would fall the same way.

Hasn't been fully determined yet but it seems like you'll be able to train 10 players of your choosing, with the restrictions being the same as what they currently are now if I remember correctly. The concept of being forced to train a single skill at a time for all players seems to be on the way out. Still think it's a few seasons off yet.

Edit: I think this is going to have an effect on the transfer market and I suspect could go either way, including the potential for the market to crash whilst it rebalances itself out. For example really talented juniors are likely to now be kept by teams because if the skill distribution doesn't align with your current training plan it won't matter any more. I therefore expect a higher % of juniors on the market will be poorer quality and expect prices to come down. However, it might have the opposite effect for good juniors as more people can pick the player up if we're not limited to one type of position.

Throw in the junior school developments coming as well and you may find investing in a youth school is our way out of the mess of trying to compete in the transfer market. Easily identifiable talent I think will definitely aid this situation.
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Hasn't been fully determined yet but it seems like you'll be able to train 10 players of your choosing, with the restrictions being the same as what they currently are now if I remember correctly.

Which means they have to be in the playing 11 to be trained?

Can talk about my striker Nietnagal.

Age 22-23: Took 5 weeks to go from excellent to formidable. The lesser number of weeks could be because he already might have had pace training in the previous club.
Age 23-34: 9 weeks to go from formidable to outstanding.

*All these are pace training weeks.