Asunto: Football shame !

+ they don't exactly have the biggest stadiums, Camp Nou, Bernabeu, Mestalla etc..

okay, granted the german stadiums are bigger. But only because they were all done up for the WC in 06.

Spanish ones arent any bigger tbf but the English ones are better. I'd much rather be in the Emirates/wembley/st james/OT than at the top of the camp nou.

In 1986 Columbia got originally the World Cup, but they gave up; Mexico was only a quick replacement.

I agree. In 2018 you would have:
Wembley
Old Trafford
The Emirates
Stanley Park (a WC in England would provide the extra incentive)
St James' Park(@sportsdirect.com, not Exeter)
City of Man Stadium
Stadium of Light
Olympic Stadium
St. Mary's
Villa Park


Plus the Mestalla is a wreck now, saw that before Man U went there. Valencia can't afford the stadium in construction, or to do up the Mestalla.

Whereas in Russia:
Luzhniki Stadium (78,000)
then:
Dynamo Stadium (36,000)

ridiculous, plus the fact that the country is so big there will be huge lengths to travel between games...

there is a new mestalla planned and half constructed, but with the crisis you kow

fifa is not about football. For the game (and the players and the fans) England, Spain/Portugal, Holland/Belgium were the better choices. Fifa only cares about money. That's why Russia won.

And Qatar ... even more money for the fifa.

It's simple.

okay, granted the german stadiums are bigger. But only because they were all done up for the WC in 06.

Again not true. There was only very few work on the stadiums for the WC.

well, 5 of the top 8 stadiums in germany opened in the 6 years leading up to that WC.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_football_stadiums_in_Germany

1st. Only 4 of those 8 were new.
2nd Only 6 of them were used for the WC.
3rd They were mainly financed by private investors and the Clubs that are using them for their league matches.
4th They would have been built whether there had been a WC or not.

still proves you were talking utter crap though if half of them were in fact new.
England has Wembley, Emirates, Old Trafford, St James', Anfield, Villa Park, Elland road, Hillsborough, stadium of light and quite a few more that are 40k capacities and thats ones that are already there.
Spurs and Liverpool are getting new ones and there's the Olympic stadium.

England has the best stadiums in the world. Fact. We're the only country that could host a world cup at the drop of a hat and you can guarantee that the WC would come to England if anyone ever failed to deliver the promised stadia and infrastructure

I agree, these lists show:

England biggest 15 stadiums:
1 Wembley Stadium 90,000 England national football team
2 Old Trafford 75,957 Manchester United
3 Emirates Stadium 60,355 Arsenal
4 St James' Park 52,387 Newcastle United
5 Stadium of Light 49,000 Sunderland
6 City of Manchester Stadium 47,826 Manchester City
7 Anfield 45,522 Liverpool Premier League
8 Villa Park 42,788 Aston Villa
9 Stamford Bridge 42,055 Chelsea Premier League
10 Goodison Park 40,158 Everton
11 Elland Road 40,000 Leeds United
12 Hillsborough Stadium 39,814 Sheffield Wednesday
13 White Hart Lane 36,310 Tottenham Hotspur
14 The Boleyn Ground (Upton Park) 35,333 West Ham United
15 Riverside Stadium 34,988 Middlesbrough

Spain:
1 Camp Nou 99,354 FC Barcelona
2 Santiago Bernabéu 80,354 Real Madrid C.F.
3 Estadio de la Cartuja 57,619
4 Lluís Companys 55,926
5 Mestalla 55,000 Valencia CF
6 Vicente Calderón 54,581 Atlético Madrid
7 Benito Villamarín 52,500 Real Betis
8 Ramón Sánchez Pizjuán 45,500 Sevilla FC
9 Estadi Cornellà-El Prat 40,500 RCD Espanyol
10 San Mamés 40,000 Athletic Bilbao
11 Manuel Martínez Valero 38,750 Elche CF
11 Riazor 34,600 Deportivo de La Coruña
12 La Romareda 34,596 Real Zaragoza
13 La Rosaleda 34,596 Málaga CF
14 Nueva Condomina 33,045 Real Murcia
15 Gran Canaria 32,520 UD Las Palmas

I can't find German stadiums pre-2006 but many stadiums were opened specifically before the World Cup.

English stadiums are best in the world. Fact.

I can't find German stadiums pre-2006 but many stadiums were opened specifically before the World Cup.

English stadiums are best in the world. Fact.

No reason for a discussion with people that are even admitting that they don't know much but still insist on knowing everything.

well you said yourself 4 out of the top 8 were new. Make your mind up.

And you obviously don't care to inform yourself about it.
They have mainly been paid by private investors and the clubs using them for league matches.
Furthermore one of them (as I mentioned) was not even used for the WC.

The reason they got built is that the clubs want to make more money. The attendance of the Bundesliga is higher than that of the Premier league since 2003/04. During the last season it was like 42k in average vs 34k in average.

Now make up your mind why new stadiums were built in Germany and the oh-so-great stadiums in England aren't even filled.

because the prices are ridiculous? And we're in a recession? And half of our top stadiums arent in the premiership? The stadiums are better and bigger, end of.

But hey, dont let little things like facts get in the way mate.

I never compared stadiums but unfortunately you're too ignorant to really read or even consider my points.
I said the Germans stadiums weren't built for the WC and the attendance is higher, that's all.

The problems of the Premier League and England itself are something else.