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I remember
21y defs pops on 17 pace/def after 5 and 6 trainings
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Yes, that was our goal, but finally we decided to get back to exactly the same training algoritm as it was before the reform.
It was also announced a bit later than news you posted.

raul, isn't there some curve mistake made again that your young player jumped in skill so quickly?
I didn't notice it in my 25+ players, I would even say that training is more crude at this age

Jak chcesz dam ci dane moich zawodników co trenowali ogólnie i nie tylko i extra 25-26l
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I hope you verified this with devs casus training is slower or drops are faster..

So please, ask dzidzia and others,
what happened to the training of their good players.

I'm sure it's much slower than before slowed down training.

Maybe ask Mikoos?
He is the one now who can prove on big data callection that training isn't slower.
And Im pretty sure he already told that training is faster than was before.

You guys just count it wrong or expecting miracles.

It would be great if someone could provide screenshots of these great pace pops from before the training reform, for example how quick with how quick it was possible to train pace to divine at age 26 with best talent.

No, it could be tested only on good players.

My 26y mid popd after 7+21 new gt it's equal over 10 training
In old training he would jump after a maximum of 7 or 8 workouts

Ask Kouta, Lipa, dzidzia, others
see old threads about the training progress of top players, you'll see
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7 +21gt, that tells everything. Its 28 weeks. Training was repaired 21 weeks ago so you counts 7 old broken weeks and you are surprised.

You can't count it like that... Current training is not a problem, problem is in that 7 weeks before it was fixed.

Show us screenshot of that 28 weeks. If some of advanced training weeks in that skill were in that first 7 weeks than it proves even more where the problem is. And it is not in current system.

My 26y mid popd after 7+21 new gt it's equal over 10 training

When did he pop? When did he have these seven trainings?

Only the last 21 trainings are quicker, so either he had some old gts or he had slowed down normal trainings.

Ask Kouta, Lipa, dzidzię, others
see old threads about the training progress of top players, you'll see

All I want is screenshots of that good pace training on older players from before the training reform

Maybe ask Mikoos?
He is the one now who can prove on big data callection that training isn't slower.
And Im pretty sure he already told that training is faster than was before.

I don't have good data on training, especially of older players. I'm not 100% sure that everything works now as it should. That's why I ask for screenshots.

eh pace has always been slow at older ages.

screen from 9 years back - 12+13gt to 17 pace at age of 26-27y. And he had top talent or he wouldnt reach those skills he had.

Popped to outstanding technique after 3 weeks, then popped to incredible after 4, around 20-21yo when I sold him to you, so nice talent indeed

No sir,
he get 7 new trainings, and old gt was counted 3 as 2 new.

Everything is in the old threads, you can search
It's not a lot of data, but you can find something

Examples of old pops good players:
2+32gt on 16 pass
4+7gt on 14 def 24y
4+20gt non 15 play
5+10gt on 14 tech
6 on 15 tech
6+32gt on 16 pace 25y
8+11gt on 16 tech 26y

5+4gt on 16 pass 24y

5 on 14 play 24y
7+11gt on 17 tech
10 on 17 pace 26y
9+15gt on 18 tech

5 on 14 play 24y
7+11gt on 17 tech
6+30gt on 16 pace 25y

6+13gt on 16 tech 25y

screen from 9 years back - 12+13gt to 17 pace at age of 26-27y. And he had top talent or he wouldnt reach those skills he had.

11+13gt most likely, his training on week 564 looks lost.

I can share this screenshot from a test server, all career should be with current rules; his age is on the right:
https://i.imgur.com/u8wD6xp.png

nice talent shown by his pops in def early

last pops in pace were:
6.5 to [14] at age 23/24
8 to [15] at age 24
8.5 to [16] at age 24/25
11.5 to [17] at age 25/26
13.5 to [18] at age 26/27

Do I see correctly that he lost superdivine at 28yo while training pace at 100% and then needed another 7.5 trainings to regain it...? :|

11.5 to 17 at 25/26 does seem longer than I remember it taking...

btw. are you 100% sure that the test server training matches the game training after all the changes...?