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Asunto: [info] Training issue - solutions

2022-10-23 10:31:12
Raul para Todos
In past weeks we follow your feedback about training reform, especially training speed reduction.
We need to admit, that in current shape training algoritm is a bit to harsh for players, and probably reduced training speed to much.

In upcoming days/weeks we will work on some improvements, to make it better, and training will be accelerated. We will use few tools to improve it:
1. We will accelerate speed of training of low level skills and medium ones, but skills from the top of scale will remain hard to get - we belive, that it is good for the game in long term perspective, to avoid multidevine players, I hope you will agree on that. Low level skills will be trained even faster, than it was before our reform.
2. general training will be better (around 50% more effective than now, so it will be still quite low, but should generate higher number of additional pops of non-trained skills)
3. We will add one more skill (probably "galactic" one, between unearthly and devine - to make scale from 1-20). That point is more difficult and probably will be introduced a bit later.

We hope that proposed changes will be a good solution for current discontent, it will help to achieve our long term plan to make top sokker players more diversified, but with remaining training thursdays green and exciting for users.
2022-10-23 10:42:08
Hi thank you for coming back to all of us. Can you just specify by when approximately the training speed change is planned to be changed?
2022-10-23 10:50:34
Geston para Raul
Winter is coming (in North part of the world)
And Qatar World Cup is coming.
I mean by that - perfect time is coming for any kind of promotion.
People spend more time playing games sitting at home.

Hopefully you'll achieve to fix that training reform and start any promotion campaign in 1-2 months.

You need to investigate inflation problem aswell.
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2022-10-23 10:55:06
mauser para Raul
what about the second issue, the length of injuries in view of the new season schedule?
2022-10-23 11:00:01
LowPing para Raul
What about another issues / features:
- Injuries: probability / lenght / insane difference between estimated and real injury days for old players.
- Juniors: 18yo juniors with 30+ weeks is a joke! Fresh players with tragic pace and even other skills is a big problem.
- Seeing the promised (two season ago) the skills of NT players for NT managers???
- ME: penalties and 1v1 situations are extremly hard to score!
- Bug: Transfers page has many errors when Transfer is expired.

P.S. anyway, thx for feedback and good luck.
2022-10-23 11:21:33
Thanks Raul, that are some very good news. Greener trainings sounds great.

+1 Lowping. Thanks for very good points. I wanted to ask the same questions

I would also appreciate if we could have 11 advanced training slots to keep up with wider squads we need to have now. Everyone uses too many old players now to compensate this but there will be lack of them in future. And I find formation training obsolete in general and especially for 30yrs old players. My 31yrs old striker dropped from brilliant to incredible striker skill even though he trained it with formation training and what is more bizarre I gave him two full advanced trainings and he is still incredible.
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2022-10-23 11:27:16
I think that points 1 & 2 can be made in few weeks period - i hope that we will introduce it in first half of november.
2022-10-23 11:29:02
Raul para Geston
Right, we will start some tests with advertising in upcomming week, with limited scale.
Our goal right now is to test some advertising channels (mainly google and facebook) and see how new starting page and registration process works.

If everything will be fine, we will try to invest a bit more in media.
2022-10-23 11:30:30
Raul para mauser
what you mean with lenght of injuries? there are a bit reduced, if i'm correct it is 10% less than it was before 3 games per week appeared.
You mean probability?
2022-10-23 11:36:38
Raul para LowPing
Well, there is a lot of work ahead of us, we are aware of that.

Injuries - that's a neverending discussion, i will skip that for now.
Juniors - junior school should be reformed, but we want to make it more complex - it is one of important changes planned for the future.
Seeing NT players skills - yep, sorry for delays, but we focused first to fix some other bugs, its the first new feature that will be introduced, deadline for us is till the end of current season.
ME - there is a lot to be improved in ME, penalties, running out of the field, etc - but ME is a huge piece of work and need to wait till any other changes will be implemented.
Transfers page - could you clarify what bugs? we trying to fix all small bugs with new pages right now, every week we are introducing some updates right now, maybe we missed something.
2022-10-23 11:36:56
mauser para Raul
most complaints are about length, as far as I see. > 25 days are still possible, that's more than 6 official matches (+CC) and more than 1/4 of a season. Give us max. 20 and it's OK I guess.
2022-10-23 11:37:58
Raul para slavista
I think we had that conversation before, right? ;) 10 places is fine, you will manage. It just cant be to easy.
2022-10-23 11:42:52
Raul para mauser
limit was 34 in old days, so 10% reduced it to max 30 i suppose.
Let me ask theoretical question - what would be better, to left injuries as it is now, and remove injuries from NT, of opposite?

I'm aware that injuries are not making anyone happy, but it should be a part of the game - even 6 official games is not a lot when you compare to real world (and players who can miss all season, or even end career), that is a tool to make you think about some extra players for substitutions, overall it is good for the game.

Squad rotation is almost not existing right now in sokker, I hope it will be someday a important part of the game too.
2022-10-23 11:45:41
mauser para Raul
Let me ask theoretical question - what would be better, to left injuries as it is now, and remove injuries from NT, of opposite?

for me NT injuries are realistic and therefor OK, but probably I don't speak for the majority here. So I vote for another general reduction and leave NT injuries like it is.
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2022-10-23 11:46:14
LowPing para Raul
Transfers page - could you clarify what bugs? we trying to fix all small bugs with new pages right now, every week we are introducing some updates right now, maybe we missed something.

I have tested it on different browsers, result is the same.
So to see the bug just do the following steps:

1. Open the trasfers page and let it be open in one of the TABS:
[url=https://ibb.co/cy3yw07][/url]

2. In another TAB, find any player and Follow the player or make a bid:
[url=https://ibb.co/smY1Qxf][/url]

3. Open the previous TAB of Trasfer and you will see the result:
[url=https://ibb.co/vQyYqJD][/url]

Same happens whe players is removed from TL (bring the player in).
So any change on Transfer page bring this error. This is so bad...
2022-10-23 12:01:07
slavista para Raul
yeah well we discussed pretty much everything over the years. This is just my thought on what could be the issue in many seasons ahead. But I am sure you have checked this in the test server so you know better.

Injuries are still way too long in terms of missed games. There are already two topics about it in this forum.