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Asunto: Restrict number of players
Player value is worthless...and it's not in line with their transfer value.
It's only an indicator of the strength of the player, but only in a general degree, not in a specific degree.
Agree to disagree... I think there's a pattern that indicates if a player is about to POP soon (when exactly and at which attribute it will be hard to tell).
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It's only an indicator of the strength of the player, but only in a general degree, not in a specific degree.
Agree to disagree... I think there's a pattern that indicates if a player is about to POP soon (when exactly and at which attribute it will be hard to tell).
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no, there's not..well not directly anyways.
You can have 2 completely different players with exactly the same value. And form plays a huge role in this.
But the fact is that every skill + form is always integrated to calculate the value, so it's always a general indication.
Your player can have a skill that is about to pop, but you will never be able to tell that only from looking at the players value.
If you follow his progress, you might, but then again...you can simply do so by looking to his training progression.
Also...as stated earlier in this topic...I think Borkos made the comment...
The highest skill will elevate the value in a higher degree.
F.e.... a player can have 6 very good skills, being in divine form and having a lower value than a player with 1 outstanding skill and weak and poor others, also in divine form.
Also GK skill lifts the value in exponential ways.
A player with very good GK and all tragic skills will still have a higher value than a player with excellent defender, pace and some lower sideskills f.e.
But the main thing about the value is that it always calculate all skills... so it's perfectly possible for a player to be close to a pop, and for the value to increase or decrease without the player popping for several weeks.
You can have 2 completely different players with exactly the same value. And form plays a huge role in this.
But the fact is that every skill + form is always integrated to calculate the value, so it's always a general indication.
Your player can have a skill that is about to pop, but you will never be able to tell that only from looking at the players value.
If you follow his progress, you might, but then again...you can simply do so by looking to his training progression.
Also...as stated earlier in this topic...I think Borkos made the comment...
The highest skill will elevate the value in a higher degree.
F.e.... a player can have 6 very good skills, being in divine form and having a lower value than a player with 1 outstanding skill and weak and poor others, also in divine form.
Also GK skill lifts the value in exponential ways.
A player with very good GK and all tragic skills will still have a higher value than a player with excellent defender, pace and some lower sideskills f.e.
But the main thing about the value is that it always calculate all skills... so it's perfectly possible for a player to be close to a pop, and for the value to increase or decrease without the player popping for several weeks.
I have started this topic because somebody has 3 times more players on his team than he should have and he is , surprisingly, trading them successfully! The main idea was to restrict the number of players, for reasons mentioned above! But than I thought "what if this guy is actually on to something?! What if he has some sort of a secret?!" .
The basic idea is to see if residual training influences the value of a player , this way being able to predict a pop. But as form also influences directly the value we need to collect and compare a lot of data to find out (if there is anything to find out) !
If you haven't done any study in this direction don't tell people with certainty your idea (pro or against), because you will just sound like a religious lider who has no idea himself but is trying to convince the others that he and his religion have "the truth "! :-))
It's an idea and I will study it to see if it leads anywhere...
The basic idea is to see if residual training influences the value of a player , this way being able to predict a pop. But as form also influences directly the value we need to collect and compare a lot of data to find out (if there is anything to find out) !
If you haven't done any study in this direction don't tell people with certainty your idea (pro or against), because you will just sound like a religious lider who has no idea himself but is trying to convince the others that he and his religion have "the truth "! :-))
It's an idea and I will study it to see if it leads anywhere...
residual training...is that also something from your book of ideas?
... I was pretty sure I have used the right word :-)) ... the traning that players get without training specifically. I have players whose level rose multiple times without training at a certain skill... GK growing ..4... skills in DEF even though they never trained DEF (My GK for example).
It's called general training in English :)
Form influence over the players value is an easy formula
Skills influence over the players value is an easy formula
Keepers are the easiest players to guess the sublevels :P
Form influence over the players value is an easy formula
Skills influence over the players value is an easy formula
Keepers are the easiest players to guess the sublevels :P
Thanks Terrion!
I had the wrong word after all... :-))) (residual = remaining )
But I'm happy that someone agrees with me (you do agree with me, don't you :-))) ) and that I'm not completely crazy!
I think that there are already some people who can do this (predict sub-skills) just by looking at the player's attributes and value on the Transfer Market (form and mark history maybe).
If you can build into Assistente a formula that predicts a player's sub-skill based only on his current data without any traning history, DON'T DO IT PLEASE!
It will be an unbelievable tool but it will be used for the wrong purposes!
Thank you for all the work you put into Sokker Assistente https://raqueto.com/sokker/asistente
Cheers!
I had the wrong word after all... :-))) (residual = remaining )
But I'm happy that someone agrees with me (you do agree with me, don't you :-))) ) and that I'm not completely crazy!
I think that there are already some people who can do this (predict sub-skills) just by looking at the player's attributes and value on the Transfer Market (form and mark history maybe).
If you can build into Assistente a formula that predicts a player's sub-skill based only on his current data without any traning history, DON'T DO IT PLEASE!
It will be an unbelievable tool but it will be used for the wrong purposes!
Thank you for all the work you put into Sokker Assistente https://raqueto.com/sokker/asistente
Cheers!
Squad limit must be 30.
No way. If bro wants to keep 70 players in his team, let him.
No way. If bro wants to keep 70 players in his team, let him.
Yep.
In the previous system, I would've agreed with iyi, but in this system, where there are other things playing and where development of the game has stagnated into a very slow paced process, without perspective of a certain future, we need to make managers play the game how they want it to.
There are enough rules and misery within real life...let us have some flexibility and fun in this game.
In the previous system, I would've agreed with iyi, but in this system, where there are other things playing and where development of the game has stagnated into a very slow paced process, without perspective of a certain future, we need to make managers play the game how they want it to.
There are enough rules and misery within real life...let us have some flexibility and fun in this game.
In this case let's introduce bribery for the referees !
It's simple to introduce and it could also be fun.... or frustrating, one of the two (no difference than the trading frenzie of some) !
Each referee has a different hidden sensitive amount that he would like to receive (random, just like talent).
All referees would expect to receive from 0-100k! Not all referees are corrupt!
The player who is the nearest to the amount the referees would like to receive will have an advantage!
If both teams are equally close or far apart , from the expected amount, NONE OF THE TWO GET AN ADVANTAGE (wasted money)!
At the end of the game the bribing result could be made public, to see if we succeed or not (the opponents amount should remain private)!
Cheers!
It's simple to introduce and it could also be fun.... or frustrating, one of the two (no difference than the trading frenzie of some) !
Each referee has a different hidden sensitive amount that he would like to receive (random, just like talent).
All referees would expect to receive from 0-100k! Not all referees are corrupt!
The player who is the nearest to the amount the referees would like to receive will have an advantage!
If both teams are equally close or far apart , from the expected amount, NONE OF THE TWO GET AN ADVANTAGE (wasted money)!
At the end of the game the bribing result could be made public, to see if we succeed or not (the opponents amount should remain private)!
Cheers!
If someone wants to have 70 players in their team like Chelsea or Man City in RL, let them, they should have that right. But then, they should intruduce a new option in sokker as loaning players with some weekly fee. With an option that every club could loan in max. 3 players to avoid some sokker multimillionare that could buy and loan to a friend :)
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I don't know if that would be a good idea.
But if it could be, it should be treated so that some "friends" don't borrow players only for the most difficult matches! Personally, I would probably see it, borrowing peas - yes, but at least for two to three seasons. Certainly not just for a few matches! Then it would lose its meaning.
But if it could be, it should be treated so that some "friends" don't borrow players only for the most difficult matches! Personally, I would probably see it, borrowing peas - yes, but at least for two to three seasons. Certainly not just for a few matches! Then it would lose its meaning.
No, the loaning should be availible on the beginning of the seaon, 2-3 weeks, the players should stay then for the whole season at the loaned club, which pays the loan fee, the salary remains at the main club
Imagine buying 3 top youths and then sending them on loan to an inactive friend who will just train them for you. Free 3 training spots.
Let's buy 50 youngsters and loan them...
Then, after 1 season, they come back...to be sold right away...yeey, jackpot! :-p
Then, after 1 season, they come back...to be sold right away...yeey, jackpot! :-p