Asunto: »»Youth reform: Changes in youth academies / junior traini

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All I know is it is a boring academy now.

Oh look, I got a talented youth this week! Too bad he'll be 21 by the time he graduates at brilliant, lmao

I got this one today
Dalibor Švagr 17 2 (unsatisfactory) outfield 20 6 (adequate) - 8 (solid)

This is the only 16y I got in last 8 weeks
Chrudoš Seydler 16 0 (tragic) outfield 2 1 (hopeless)

I mean the only one I got, not only one i kept! This is ridiculous!

Devs says that price is what I pay value is what I got. But I get only superboring crap that I cannot influence in any way.

You don’t even know if he’s talented or not. He might come out as a 21yo formidable :p

Today
16 y 8 weeks tragic
17 Y 22 w poor
18 y adequate 33 weeks
All is perfect
Thanks

You guys earned 30 million euros last years with your youth school and still you have to come here and complain.
Strangely, we hear you less complaining when you pull out your profitable juniors.

And when this is not about the youth school this is about the injuries or the training restrictions, there is always a reason to whin.

30 millions for 3 years (around 12 sk season) its not much compare to just training/trading over the market.

It's also cost around 1 million by season to maintain your academy open (full team/ top trainer), plus those millions didn't represent the real value/profit in Y.S : most of profitable juniors needs also club training.

Y.S is just a huge profit for a small lucky teams. Just ok and boring for most of teams, and a huge lost for unlucky teams.

I have earned less than 100k from my youth school in four full seasons now. If I want to include my one kept player Dakota Hodge, it's maybe 250k. He's not talented (3.8-3.9) but came at mid 16, so he's workable. Maybe gets to 48 point striker by 29.

With the changes to fan happiness and stadium income, I am 80% sure I'm closing down my youth school and dumping existing kids. As someone who has played this game competitively, as the devs want, from day 1, I cannot afford this stadium income change. I have been relying on it all along. I am just giving it a bit more time before I make the decision.

I am down about 3 million from this "investment" over the past four seasons, and with the existing crop of 11 in my school now, I see ONE player who will come out at an age and talent that might be valuable - depending on RNG replacement.

I love the idea of a youth school, I have a youth academy in another soccer sim with a ton of kids from 15 to 19.
I've graduated players to my senior team there. It is slow, like here, but the system (provided you invest in it) actually pays off. Rest of that game is pretty mid, but I like training/raising my own kids. I just don't get ANY here.

edited because I don't intend to advertise this other game. I like this one a lot better, but the youth academy is an absolute tragedy here.
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From what I have seen you have been incredibly unlucky.

You can have 4 seasons of garbage youth, and then 1 player will pay for all your expenses and more.

I think current system is shit, rng is terrible but it is not that expensive to run, you will be fine with incredible/brilliant coach.

Thats 50k-60k/week.

Yeah, that's called gambler's fallacy.

I closed my youth school this weekend.
When they make it suck less, I'll restart. It's been a money sink, and I don't have tens of millions to throw down the toilet.

He's not talented (3.8-3.9) but came at mid 16, so he's workable. Maybe gets to 48 point striker by 29.

YS talent of 3.8-3.9 is quite talented, imo. Certainly not the optimum, but very well to work on 1-2 seasons and then sell with high profit as 17/18 yo
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I don't train to sell, overall. I train to build my future team. There are exceptions but these are mostly based on timing.

3.9 is not talented. My worst first gen trainee was just under 3.7, and they were built inefficiently because during their best years I had poor assistants.

I don't even look at a player unless I think (or know) they are 3.6ish or below.

Maybe that is the reason why you don't get any youths out your school - assuming you fire all youths above 4w talent.

4-5w talents can go to 10-13 easily when exiting YS. Ans with a little bit of luck and a nice skill distribution, you can make a couple of 100k.

At least that was possible 13 years ago. ;-)

yeah, at age 20. Useless.

The best to come out of my school was a late 18 year old outstanding pull. 4 week talent (not advertised). Got me like 10k.
I had one player estimated to come out that I just fired with the closure who should have come out as brilliant/magical. At age 21.

Thanks for nothing.
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ok, that's really vad luck then.

if they do youth school reform right (which I doubt), that player could be great.

I'm not holding my breath though. I'll pass out.