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Asunto: Auto-Bidding System in Sokker

2024-12-28 14:22:24
I told you that you can physically intervene and ignore the Auto-bidding if you still want something more from life. But the Auto-bidding offers you protection, it offers protection for sellers who sell and do not sell below market value. What is not clear here?

what is not clear is the fact that you look at it only from one perspective, a very limited view that would suit you as a user who plays for a long time, but doesn't want to spend time on transfer market, so you want to make it easy for you to spend the money

you don't look at it from a perspective of a poor club (small or new) who DOESN'T want this market protection because the only way to improve for him is to buy CHEAPLY when other players miss the auction because they aren't online - and you want to take that away from them, I'm writing it for 4th time already...

It's up to each person to choose

it's NOT
it's not a choice of a small team that wants to buy a cheap player, under market value, by following 10+ players and hoping to get 1 that they will be able to afford

it will be a choice for the RICH club whether he wants to buy a player - if yes, then the small team won't get the player, because the set auto-bid will be above the financial capabilities of the poor/new/small team

so no, it's not a "choice for each person" and you can't "physically intervene".

Auto-bidding is just insurance for your physical absence.

It's not insurance, it's taking the activity part out of the equation and it's allowing users to auto-bid 50+ players over the weekend to raise the prices / look for opportunities.
2024-12-28 14:23:22
Final Conclusion

Pros: 70%
Cons: 30%


Stop with this chat gpt shit, it has zero knowledge about the game, it's pointless to copy-paste it again and again...
2024-12-28 14:25:20
Oh wow, I did the analysis again - look, it's 80% disadvantages!

Overview of Auto-Bid Feature:
The Auto-Bid feature in online football manager games allows players to set parameters for automatic bidding on players during the in-game transfer market. Instead of manually monitoring and placing bids on players, the game’s system automatically places bids based on predefined criteria (e.g., price range, player potential, position, etc.). The idea is to save time and streamline the transfer process, while still giving players the opportunity to sign new players to their teams.

Advantages of the Auto-Bid Feature (20%)
Time-Saving (8%)
The Auto-Bid feature is particularly useful for players who are managing a large squad or are involved in multiple aspects of the game. Instead of spending time manually placing bids on players, the system can automate this process, saving a considerable amount of time. This is especially beneficial for players who have limited time to engage in the game, allowing them to focus on other aspects like tactics or team management.
Efficiency in Transfer Strategy (6%)
For players who have a well-defined transfer strategy (e.g., focusing on young players, certain positions, or specific price ranges), the Auto-Bid feature helps execute this strategy automatically. This can help secure targets without requiring constant manual effort, ensuring the team is always in a state of improvement or adjustment.
Reduced Stress in Market Battles (4%)
In competitive transfer markets, bidding wars can occur between players. The Auto-Bid feature reduces the stress of having to monitor each bid in real-time, ensuring that your offers stay competitive without the need for constant input. The system can be set to continuously place bids, preventing you from losing out on target players due to forgetfulness or slow response.
Disadvantages of the Auto-Bid Feature (80%)
Lack of Personal Control (20%)
One of the biggest downsides of using Auto-Bid is the loss of personal control over the bidding process. Players who prefer to micromanage their transfer strategy might find the automation restrictive, as the system will place bids based on pre-set parameters. This can result in overpaying for players or missing out on potential bargains, especially if market conditions change quickly.
Potential for Overpaying (15%)
Auto-Bid is typically based on price ranges or predefined budgets. However, these settings might not always reflect the true market dynamics. For example, if a player’s value fluctuates unexpectedly or if the bidding competition intensifies, the Auto-Bid system might place a bid that is higher than the player’s actual value, leading to overpaying. This can significantly affect the financial health of your team in the long run.
Inflexibility in Dynamic Market Situations (15%)
Online football manager games often feature dynamic transfer markets, with prices and player values changing rapidly due to in-game events or other players’ actions. The Auto-Bid system operates within the constraints of pre-defined criteria, which can make it inflexible in responding to sudden shifts in market conditions. For example, a player might be overvalued one day and undervalued the next, but the Auto-Bid will follow a static approach, making it harder to capitalize on fleeting opportunities.
Missed Tactical and Long-Term Considerations (10%)
The Auto-Bid system often ignores more nuanced elements of a player’s value, such as potential synergies with your team’s tactics, squad chemistry, or long-term development. A player who fits perfectly within your tactical system or one who may be developed into a star over time could be overlooked if their stats or current performance don’t meet your preset criteria.
Risk of Accidental Transfers (10%)
Auto-Bid settings can lead to accidental transfers, especially if a player has set their parameters too loosely. For instance, if a team manager fails to exclude players they don’t want or mistakenly leaves a bid parameter too broad, they could end up with unwanted players, such as over-the-hill veterans or players who don’t suit their tactical style. Such mistakes are difficult to undo in many online football manager games, leading to wasted resources.
Reduced Engagement and Immersion (10%)
Many players enjoy the active, hands-on nature of managing transfers, scouting, and negotiating deals. The Auto-Bid feature, while efficient, can detract from this sense of involvement, leading to reduced player engagement. The lack of interaction with the transfer market and the satisfaction of winning bids through tactical maneuvering can decrease overall enjoyment for players who prefer a more immersive experience.
Exploitation of Loopholes (10%)
In some games, players may exploit the Auto-Bid feature to automate bidding on players with high resale value or those who can be flipped for a profit. This can create an imbalance in the game, where those who know how to manipulate the Auto-Bid system gain an unfair advantage, undermining the competitive integrity of the market and making it difficult for casual players to compete.
Increased Risk of Team Imbalance (5%)
Auto-Bid does not always account for creating a well-rounded squad. Since the feature focuses on specific parameters (such as player potential or price), it could lead to acquiring too many players in one position or neglecting other areas of the squad. Over time, this can create an imbalanced team that is difficult to manage, requiring significant corrective actions from the player to fix the issue.
Dependence on AI and Pre-Set Criteria (5%)
The Auto-Bid feature is only as good as the criteria you set. If the parameters are not aligned with your goals or misinterpreted, the AI may make poor decisions on your behalf. This dependency on the AI could lead to suboptimal acquisitions or failures to adjust to changes in player market trends, making the gameplay feel less dynamic and reactive.
Conclusion
While the Auto-Bid feature in online football manager games offers a convenient and time-saving option, it comes with significant drawbacks that outweigh its benefits. In terms of overall game impact:

Advantages (20%): Time-saving, efficiency in executing transfer strategy, and reduced stress in competitive markets.
Disadvantages (80%): Loss of personal control, potential for overpaying, market inflexibility, missed tactical considerations, accidental transfers, reduced engagement, exploitation of loopholes, increased team imbalance, and over-reliance on AI.
2024-12-28 14:26:30
I seriously hate that chat gpt bullshit, you can make stupid arguments for everything with it and tell it to show whatever numbers you want...

and I can see it from miles when someone like you is using this shit to try to sound smart, while having no arguments or real knowledge
2024-12-28 14:33:28
Well, why should we ignore people who don't have much time for sokker? For example, I don't have as much time as I did 10 years ago. And then I should give up sokker? Is that the solution? So... You don't have time, then, you have no right to play this game... That's what comes out of your statements. You ignore those who have come to have less free time and condemn them to abandon this game, because some stay 24/24 on sokker and monitor the game's activity. Priorities in life change, we have real life which is the most important, but I would like to be able to compete with those who stay online 24 hours a day on sokker. I wouldn't be able to be competitive in such situations and the interest of users would decrease. Look this up in psychological research to understand how people think. Is that what you want? By doing so, you would silence me? That's what your arguments lead to. Those who don't allocate time shouldn't be competitive and should beat those who allocate time. Doesn't that lead to the loss of this game? Don't you think that people will prioritize real life over virtual life? Don't you think that's what it will lead to? You're being unfair that the one who allocates time should have more chances in the transfer market than me. I would also like to buy cheap players, but I don't have time to spend that much time in the transfer market to monitor them... And as I told you, you can intervene physically when you think it's necessary.
2024-12-28 14:34:36
So in short, you just created this topic because you don't have time to buy players, so you want to do this automatically, and fuck up all the new and poor teams. Great that we cleared that up.

You're being unfair that the one who allocates time should have more chances in the transfer market than me.

of course he should. being active should be rewarded, otherwise everyone will just go on autopilot and the game will die.

what's next, automatic tactic creator, based on next opponent?

automatic training choice?

yes, let the game play by itself, great idea
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2024-12-28 14:35:57
Stop with this chat gpt shit, it has zero knowledge about the game, it's pointless to copy-paste it again and again...

It's much smarter than all of us in objective assessments. And especially than you who are rigid and impose your point of view so categorically. Stating that I am absolutely wrong and you are absolutely right... Stupidity
2024-12-28 14:38:17
And how could you combat this if I personally set out to create such software?
2024-12-28 14:38:23
Objective assesment about a game that it has literally zero knowledge because it's not been trained in this game, so it just spurts out basically random theories based on what prompt you give it.

For you it showed 70% advantages, for me it came up with 80% disadvantages.

Soooo smart, indeed.
2024-12-28 14:39:34
And how could you combat this if I personally set out to create such software?

I would simply block your account based on your bidding routine, it would be very easy to spot, other users already used it and it was very visible. Always the same bidding pattern, at every player and hour.
2024-12-28 14:43:06
You can't stand in the way of progress, because it would absolutely destroy you. We should be flexible and adapt to new challenges. But you remain with the outdated mentality and you are doing your best not to lose your influence. Calm down, whether you accept this or not, I will have software that will automatically bid without your consent. Do you understand? And you won't be able to stop me with your arguments. That doesn't mean that I won't be on the transfer market, but I won't allow players to leave below their real market price. With that, I said it all...
2024-12-28 14:46:41
It's not progress, it's laziness and killing A GAME. A game should be played, you just want everything to be done for you without your impact.

Honestly I don't care what you do, I don't even know who you are. I'm against implementing this for all users.

You? Good luck with that. As I've said, users already used it, it's very easy to spot when someone uses and auto-bid. And those users are no longer with us:)
2024-12-28 14:47:09
I would simply block your account based on your bidding routine, it would be very easy to spot, other users already used it and it was very visible. Always the same bidding pattern, at every player and hour.

:))))))
You can't prove it because it will work exactly like a normal human login. What business would it have me making sure? It's just a protection for me so that I don't lose players that I'm willing to buy dsr from leaving for less than my offer... If they leave for more, that's it... So stop with the stupidity of blocking the account. It's nothing illegal, it's just a little help when I sleep.
2024-12-28 14:48:44
You can't prove it

You'd be surprised:) bye

and it will be far, far easier after you yourself admitted that you will do it, congratulations :D
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2024-12-28 14:51:28
This shouldn't be illegal, it's my right to choose an app that helps me when I'm absent for other reasons. Why should someone ban me for this? There are no shady transactions, just price insurance. You just have an outdated mentality and you're like some in society who hate development and progress, because you consider yourself disadvantaged because of your plasticized mentality.
2024-12-28 14:57:23
You just have a mentality of a person who looks only for himself and considers only himself when doing and asking for things, not giving a damn about others or the game itself.

You fuck up the market for new/small users, you will end up with a dead game with half-bots. But you'd need to be able to look at a bigger picture to see that, instead you have a tunnel vision that includes only your well-being.