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Asunto: Auto-Bidding System in Sokker
You just have a mentality of a person who looks only for himself and considers only himself when doing and asking for things, not giving a damn about others or the game itself.
You fuck up the market for new/small users, you will end up with a dead game with half-bots. But you'd need to be able to look at a bigger picture to see that, instead you have a tunnel vision that includes only your well-being.
You fuck up the market for new/small users, you will end up with a dead game with half-bots. But you'd need to be able to look at a bigger picture to see that, instead you have a tunnel vision that includes only your well-being.
because you consider yourself disadvantaged because of your plasticized mentality.
as for this, you couldn't be more wrong
I'm as "advantaged" as possible in this game due to knowledge about market, bargain prices, training-money correlation and available funds (over 250m euro in the account)
actually the biggest disadvantage for me is the fact that I'm rarely able to follow transfers during weekend before 8pm, so in fact the auto-bid feature would be GREAT for me personally as it would fix my only disadvantage in the game
the difference here is that I'm not a selfish asshole who looks at things only from his own perspective and well-being, but I look at things from different perspective and I can see how it will impact other users and the game itself negatively
that's the difference between us, I can see beyond my own ass, you can't or are not bothered to do so
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as for this, you couldn't be more wrong
I'm as "advantaged" as possible in this game due to knowledge about market, bargain prices, training-money correlation and available funds (over 250m euro in the account)
actually the biggest disadvantage for me is the fact that I'm rarely able to follow transfers during weekend before 8pm, so in fact the auto-bid feature would be GREAT for me personally as it would fix my only disadvantage in the game
the difference here is that I'm not a selfish asshole who looks at things only from his own perspective and well-being, but I look at things from different perspective and I can see how it will impact other users and the game itself negatively
that's the difference between us, I can see beyond my own ass, you can't or are not bothered to do so
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Society should decide if it would be good for them or not. You are from the other extreme, you want to keep all the old stuff without understanding that we have to adapt. Whether you want it or not, I guarantee that there will be users who would embrace this with great appreciation because they are on the verge of abandoning this game because they cannot compete with those who stay logged in for a very long time and have time. And so that this game does not die and is fair for those who have less time, Auto-bidding could help them be competitive as well. Anyway, this needs to be put to a vote... The community should decide for themselves whether an implementation of such a nature would be beneficial or not for them. Good luck. Don't be mean to me, but I can't deal with users who stay online for a long time and buy titles, buy players from the market cheaper than others who don't have time... So those who have time and stay logged in on Sokker more have a greater chance of buying cheap players. I, who may have a busy schedule, have to witness how I am disadvantaged by this thing. Do you understand? I don't do it with bad intentions, I want improvements because I am disadvantaged by those who stay online for a long time, but I want to play this game, but I lose interest when I see that here you can only win if you are logged in for a long time and monitor the processes in Sokker. It's very difficult for others. So it needs to be voted on and the community can choose. I came up with the idea of implementing it to make the process easier for developers. Good luck.
Society should decide if it would be good for them or not.
Your whole premise is wrong. Society in general usually doesn't know what is good for them, because most people are not qualified to make big decisions because they don't have enough knowledge or capability to look at bigger picture and understand the implications a small change will have on the system.
The easiest example:
Make a poll whether every member of a country should receive 30 thousand euro from the country.
The result of such poll is obvious, it would win by a landslide.
Would that be good for the country and the citizens? No, it wouldn't be good in the long-term, it would be terrible.
Do you understand? I don't do it with bad intentions, I want improvements because I am disadvantaged by those who stay online for a long time, but I want to play this game, but I lose interest when I see that here you can only win if you are logged in for a long time and monitor the processes in Sokker
You don't have to be logged in all the time and you don't have to buy 10 players weekly.
You can just choose 3-4 players weekly to follow, remember when they are sold and log in at that time to follow the auction. It's not time consuming and it's very easy now when you can do it easily on your mobile phone.
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Your whole premise is wrong. Society in general usually doesn't know what is good for them, because most people are not qualified to make big decisions because they don't have enough knowledge or capability to look at bigger picture and understand the implications a small change will have on the system.
The easiest example:
Make a poll whether every member of a country should receive 30 thousand euro from the country.
The result of such poll is obvious, it would win by a landslide.
Would that be good for the country and the citizens? No, it wouldn't be good in the long-term, it would be terrible.
Do you understand? I don't do it with bad intentions, I want improvements because I am disadvantaged by those who stay online for a long time, but I want to play this game, but I lose interest when I see that here you can only win if you are logged in for a long time and monitor the processes in Sokker
You don't have to be logged in all the time and you don't have to buy 10 players weekly.
You can just choose 3-4 players weekly to follow, remember when they are sold and log in at that time to follow the auction. It's not time consuming and it's very easy now when you can do it easily on your mobile phone.
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We could limit the number of players that can be selected for auto-bidding. For example, a maximum of 3 players.
If you have 10 million euros available in your account.
You set a limit for the player:
x - 3 million euros
y- 6 million euros...
And for player z you will automatically be able to set a maximum of 10-3-6 = 1 million euros and no more. So the auto-bidding thing will not neutralize your activity on sokker, but you could set some safety limits for the targeted players. Do you get the idea? These things can be adapted and the limit can be adjusted to avoid excessive abuses... And you as a manager, even with such advantages, no one guarantees that you will be able to buy all the proposed players...
Because someone evaluates that a player costs 3 million, another evaluates him at 3.2 million, another at 2.8 million... And this way the market balances and the prices become real. You shouldn't be able to buy a player who costs 10 million euros...buy him for 7 million... because you were more careful and had more time. It wouldn't be fair of you compared to the others...
If you have 10 million euros available in your account.
You set a limit for the player:
x - 3 million euros
y- 6 million euros...
And for player z you will automatically be able to set a maximum of 10-3-6 = 1 million euros and no more. So the auto-bidding thing will not neutralize your activity on sokker, but you could set some safety limits for the targeted players. Do you get the idea? These things can be adapted and the limit can be adjusted to avoid excessive abuses... And you as a manager, even with such advantages, no one guarantees that you will be able to buy all the proposed players...
Because someone evaluates that a player costs 3 million, another evaluates him at 3.2 million, another at 2.8 million... And this way the market balances and the prices become real. You shouldn't be able to buy a player who costs 10 million euros...buy him for 7 million... because you were more careful and had more time. It wouldn't be fair of you compared to the others...
Your whole premise is wrong. Society in general usually doesn't know what is good for them, because most people are not qualified to make big decisions because they don't have enough knowledge or capability to look at bigger picture and understand the implications a small change will have on the system.
Well, we can't impose a dictatorial system. I know that many people don't understand what is good and what is not for their society, but democracy is still better than dictatorship...
Well, we can't impose a dictatorial system. I know that many people don't understand what is good and what is not for their society, but democracy is still better than dictatorship...
"democracy is still better than dictatorship... "
In real life yes. In a game? Not so much. Have you heard of the term "Design by committee"?
In real life yes. In a game? Not so much. Have you heard of the term "Design by committee"?
Have you heard of the term "Design by committee"?
No, I haven't heard, now I'm checking to see what it's all about...
No, I haven't heard, now I'm checking to see what it's all about...
This is a great idea and it is used in another game I play.
The big thing with it is the number of players it can be used on needs to be limited.
In the other game I play, it is limited to 1 player. I think 2 players would be a better limit personally.
By having this limit, it stops the market going flat and gives those outside of regular selling time zones a chance to get players. Currently the pool of players for some is extremely small.
So great idea, just need to add in limited number of people that can have autobid placed on them
The big thing with it is the number of players it can be used on needs to be limited.
In the other game I play, it is limited to 1 player. I think 2 players would be a better limit personally.
By having this limit, it stops the market going flat and gives those outside of regular selling time zones a chance to get players. Currently the pool of players for some is extremely small.
So great idea, just need to add in limited number of people that can have autobid placed on them
Auto-bidding could be a new feature for PLUS users... At least more features like this will justify the new expensive PLUS subscription.
