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Asunto: Auto-Bidding System in Sokker

2025-01-07 18:55:22
adaca para LowPing
That would be really close to pay to win
2025-01-07 18:57:39
Not really, it doesnt give you ability to do something more, you just don’t have to be online to make a bid.

Same with plus training graphs. You can do them on your own, in a notebook, you pay to make it easier and less time consuming.
2025-01-07 19:00:36
+1
2025-03-26 01:17:25
Omur para Maonta
The ridiculousness of the original proposition isn't that well hidden.

1. As things are, you can submit bids ahead of time, and you can make them high enough to discourage other bidders. The rules forbid paying excessive fees, but since there are many 'fallback' players listed for quite the outrageous prices, there seems to be plenty of flexibility about that. The only thing you can't achieve in this way is the management aspect - pulling out of (nearly) simultaneous auctions if you already bought what you need at the time. But there's still another day. And while this game doesn't yet have even a simple real-time wage computer, you have to doubt about the feasibility of anything sophisticated enough to be useful.

2. What if we at least made the buyer pay the second highest bid then, like some people suggest? Well if the game only made you pay the second highest bid, you could slap staggering blocking bids on players right when they appear, and pay 0 - and nobody could overbid that.

3. The most important issue was voiced by Kryminator: if there are 20 managers listing the exact same top bid, how do you decide who gets the right to prevail? If it was the last bidder, the market would become an even stricter rhythm (or chicken) game, and if it was the first, it would encourage collusion and hand-me-downs. Either way, this idea has an inbuilt undoing!

Not to mention, the whole attitude of catering to the buyers at the expense of the sellers. Why!? We need a surplus of players.
2025-03-26 18:44:44
juytt para Maonta
A few years ago, I programmed a robot to bid for “bargains” on sokker because I don't have time to play sokker anymore.

Buy. Train. Resell. Make profit. Do it again!
I've never made so much profit.

Bot or no bot, it's the way to grow in Sokker.

Personally, this rat race has never entertained me. So I'd rather play with “competitive” players I've chosen and lose money. I don't need a bot for that.
But if I need to, I'll use a bot again.

Anyway, whether you like the idea or not, contrary to some comments I've heard here, I can guarantee that it's quite possible to make an automatic max-bidding system according to @Maonta's initial idea.

My personal opinion: clicking a button every minutes just to avoid overpaying or getting a good deal, it's really boring gameplay! But that's it.
The auto-bid max is a great idea for those who just want to save themselves this pain. For others, it won't change a thing, you never better served than by yourself, bots can't help.
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2025-03-26 21:00:11
"Personally, this rat race has never entertained me. So I'd rather play with “competitive” players I've chosen and lose money."

This has been my philosophy from the start. Raul claims he wants this to be less of an economic simulator, so we'll see. I am just fortunate I am not Polish, because it would be demoralizing to actually try playing from the start there.