Asunto: שני תותחי על צעירים

במיוחד כמאמן ה״צעירה״ לא ממהר לוותר על השניים האלה (בן ה-21 אצלי ובן ה-22 הבוגרת יום אחד אולי תצטרך אותו), אבל אם אדע שהם אצל מנג׳ר משלנו, שוקל אולי למכור אותם.

האם מישהו מעוניין בהם?
כמה מוכן לשים על כל אחד?
מדובר בטלנטים 3.5.
בוארון יעלה בפייס לפורמ׳ באימון שאחרי הבא…(שבוע הבא)י
מחר בוודאי יטפס בסטמינה. אעדכן
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Haim Bouaron, age: 21
club: Hapoel Jerusalem, country: Israel
value : 2 347 499 ₪
wage: 24 150 ₪
unearthly [16] form
formidable [11] tactical discipline
height: 186 cm, weight: 79.7 kg, BMI: 23.04

very good [9] stamina poor [3] keeper
excellent [10] pace very good [9] defender
very good [9] technique excellent [10] playmaker
very good [9] passing excellent [10] striker

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Ronen Kenda, age: 22
club: Hapoel Jerusalem, country: Israel
value : 2 357 999 ₪
wage: 37 800 ₪
average [5] form
outstanding [12] tactical discipline
height: 184 cm, weight: 79.9 kg, BMI: 23.6
bookings:
very good [9] stamina poor [3] keeper
incredible [13] pace excellent [10] defender
formidable [11] technique very good [9] playmaker
outstanding [12] passing average [5] striker
(editado)

יש לי טוטל 9 מיליון , לא חושב שאני יכול לקנות אותם ,אחרת - בכיף

בכללי ישראלים עם סיכוי לנבחרת אני משתדל להשאיר כמובן שכל מקרה לגופו

מקווה לשלוף מהנוער בקרוב איזה שחקן 2 פוטנציאלים מרעננים

אצלי חושך באקדמיה. לפחות ב-20 השבועות הקרובים. זה גם שיקול לנסות להריץ קבוצה של עכשיו או לעולם לא.

אני חושב שכל אחד מהם שווה לפחות 20 מיליון. תקנו אותי אם אני טועה

קשה לדעת השוק קצת לא יציב

על פניו לדעתי קנדה יגיע לאזור ה20 מיליון ובוארון קצת פחות
לא יודע אח

מנסה לברר אצל החבר׳ה בסוקר אינטרנשיונל

I would estimate Boauron at around 1.5 million, maybe a little more.
Kenda, I would estimate around 2-2.5 million.

this is in Euros.

Biggest problem you will have selling them is they are almost locked into CM role, which will drive down demand imho.
Boauron is a little easier to adapt since he's got the whole extra year ahead of him.

Wow! That’s it?
Bad news…
Thanks

פששש ממש נחוש למכור אה?

מבין שאתה רעב מאוד לאליפות

I have an unconventional way of training youth. It's not great for immediate profits but if you want to develop a player to keep for age 25, 26...it's the only way to go imo. With the exception of goalkeeper, perhaps, since their main stat is so overpowered compared to the others.

It's why I am going to be able to compete for ML title in America with underbuilt players (since they are ALL first generation players, naturally inferior due to wasted early training) in I'd say 2-3 seasons.

And what is the way?
I watch the players' training and find it hard to believe that they are worth less than 15 million NIS. After all, at the age of 27, after 3 seasons of pace training and another 3-4 seasons of defensive training, they become double divine defensive players even (they are a high talent!) when all the other qualities (play making, passing and technique) - they already have.. .
My only problem with them is that they will be a hole in the defense on a team that, after all, might be able to make a run for the championship (meaning, if I sell them and replace them with 18-year-olds and 2 other great defensive players, I'm in a much better situation)

Hard to believe that the buyer will make them Def.

More. Likely Mid player


And yet, with ptoven high talent they worth at least 15 imo
(editado)

The 22 yo one (Kenda) can be a classic divine DEF
The 21 one (Buaron) can be a DEF-MID with a triple Unearthly PM+TECH+PASS. (Or a DEF too)
In both cases, on age 28 they worth at least 37M NIS, on my global estimate.

As Guy said, in my estimation no one, including me, would make them defensive players, and I also doubt if they will really reach to double divine in defense and pace, but both definitely have the potential to be amazing defensive MID

I'm just going by recent past sales here: https://geston.smallhost.pl/sokker/transfers_db.php and taking an average then adding a little.

People seem to pay more for what they are, versus what they could be past age 19.

as far as training goes, I save main stat training for last. Everyone gets pace done first, many get tech done second. The only main stat skill that's even remotely difficult to train is striker. However, this is bad for sales, since people see brilliant PM on a 21 year old and blow their wad despite the fact that same player is excellent pace. This is also beneficial if you are uncertain where you want a player to play. I have a guy now, Tejara, who I am still not 100% sure what role I want for him. Training pace and tech allows me to put off that decision for a couple seasons.

I think it's challenging to sell players who are not in an obvious role by 22.


Kenda, assuming he has 3.5 talent, could reach divine/unearthly by start of age 28 if that was all he ever trained in, from today forward.
Buaron, again using a basic 3.5 talent, would reach unearthly PM/Pass, and incredible tech/pace. Maybe brilliant in one, by age 28.

This is also predicated on not missing a lot of time due to injuries.

You can do these same estimations I do with sokker assistente. I still have access to the U21 team on there, but once I lose the election, I won't.

Thank you for your opinion. I really appreciate it!
I am contacting you privately regarding the youth team